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« on: August 07, 2022, 09:49:09 pm »

All,

A number of my unadorned stone snuff bottles have yet to be cataloged to my collection.  So since I had them gathered up together I thought it would be a good time to go through the process of describing this category of bottles, and share them with the group here as I work though the exercise.

Banded Agate Snuff Bottle:
Extremely well hollowed agate bottle of large round rectangular form, with striking frontal splatter and orange linear striation inclusions and banding along the bottle sides.  Front face is highlight by a rare pink and rose color matrix, suggesting cherry blossoms.  Interior is smooth and polished to a glassy appearance.  Bottle sets on raised oval, beveled, foot rim.  Fine crackled rose quartz cabochon stopper inset in a silver band and old ivory spoon.  Height is 6.0 cm without stopper, weight is 65.1 g.
 
Period: ca. 1750-1850.   

Condition: Pristine, with only very minor surface abrasion.  Residual snuff scent within bottle interior.

Provenance: Unknown, acquired on eBay in 2012.

Enjoy the labor of love, Charll



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« Reply #1 on: August 07, 2022, 10:46:25 pm »

Charll,
Thanks for posting. Look forward to seeing more of the ones you shared at the last meeting.
BTW, is the lip face of this bottle flat or concave?

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« Reply #2 on: August 08, 2022, 12:10:21 pm »


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BTW, is the lip face of this bottle flat or concave?

Tom, the mouth top is concave with a bevel and rounded outer lip.  Charll
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« Reply #3 on: August 08, 2022, 09:22:35 pm »


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BTW, is the lip face of this bottle flat or concave?

Tom, the mouth top is concave with a bevel and rounded outer lip.  Charll

Thanks Charll.

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« Reply #4 on: August 09, 2022, 12:21:48 pm »

Another older bottle. 

Agate Snuff Bottle:
Extremely well hollowed (i.e., floater) agate bottle of round rectangular form, translucent micro-pillow structure of a cream and yellow color with black-brown splotching and mini facial striations.  Frontal stone inclusions are akin to a swarm of fish in a pond.   Clear quartz crystalline structure trims the bottle’s shoulders.  Interior finely ground to a smooth buff surface with uniform wall thickness.  Traditional taotie masks caved onto the sides in low profile.  Bottle sets on raised 2 mm wide oval foot rim.  Bottle mouth has a very subtle dip to a 7 mm opening (i.e., ever so slightly concaved) and has a beveled outer lip.   Brown tiger-eye cabochon stopper attached with a black nylon collar, and horn spoon.  Height is 5.5 cm, weight is 46.3 g, without stopper.

Period: ca. 19th century.   

Condition: Near pristine, with one minor nibble on the mouth lip.

Provenance: Unknown, acquired on eBay in 2015-16.

As always please feel free to provide corrections and/or comments,  Charll



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« Reply #5 on: August 10, 2022, 07:10:50 am »

Charll, I really like the bottles you posted. The first looks like it has some age to it. The second is harder to tell. Can you post a bottom view? This bottle [66mm] I think is similar to the one you talked about at the meeting....John


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« Reply #6 on: August 10, 2022, 08:29:00 am »

Hi John

Thanks for posting this last bottle.

The bottle, when lit up, looks like a volcano erupting!

Just my observation.

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« Reply #7 on: August 10, 2022, 11:16:45 am »

Richard, now I see the flaming rocks coming back to earth!
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« Reply #8 on: August 10, 2022, 09:34:21 pm »

A modern agate bottle.  As discussed this is a material I've seen coming out of China in the last 10 years or so.

Crystalline Agate Snuff Bottle:
Translucent milky white agate of baluster form with black and brown spotted variegation with crystalline insets.  Very well hollowed, but unfinished with residual drill marks.  Bottle set on a nicely finished raised oval foot rim.  Bottle fitted with a doomed carnelian agate stopper with a thick black nylon collar (no spoon).  Height is 6.6 cm by 5.2 cm wide by 3.1 cm on the side, and 65.6 g, without stopper. 

Period: Modern, post 2000’s.

Condition: Excellent

Provenance:  Altair Fine Asian Works of Art, May 31, 2015, Lot 0585

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P.S.- the last backlit photo shows the undulating roughness (think rippling of a pond) of the remnant drill marks on the interior of the bottle.   



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« Reply #9 on: August 11, 2022, 08:06:55 am »

Charll, nice markings on the bottle and you can really see the drill marks. This next bottle has some banding and the black dendrites [61mm].


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« Reply #10 on: August 13, 2022, 11:58:58 am »


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From John - Can you post a bottom view?

John, per your request a bottle view has been added to the posts above.  Charll
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« Reply #11 on: August 13, 2022, 12:11:05 pm »


This one is another old bottle.

Agate Snuff Bottle:
Small well hollowed agate bottle of flatten rounded rectangular form, dark translucent stone with shadowy black-brown circular formations on one face versa an unadorned plain surface of caramel tones on the other face.  Interior finely ground to a smooth buff surface with uniform wall thickness.  Bottle sets on an oval raised pedestaled flat foot.  Bottle mouth if flat.  Half bead carnelian stopper with a red glass collar and keratin spoon.  Height is 5.5 cm, weight is 44.6 g, without stopper.

Period: ca. 19th century.   

Condition: Very good, with some surface wear.  Strong, sweet, snuff aroma from bottle interior

Provenance:  White Lotus Gallery, Eugene, Oregon (2018)
                    Bonhams & Butterfields Sale #SOM05081SF, San Francisco between 2002-2010

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« Reply #12 on: August 13, 2022, 12:37:24 pm »

Charll, regarding your earlier post I would date the bottle late 19th century. Your new post looks rather dull until you shine a light through it, then it becomes something special.
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« Reply #13 on: August 13, 2022, 07:17:59 pm »


Another old agate bottle that was shared during last's week online discussion.

Agate Snuff Bottle:
Small well hollowed agate bottle of flatten bulbous form in cloudy translucent dark black-brown to red-brown tones.  Interior finely ground to a smooth buff surface with uniform wall thickness.  Bottle sets slightly concaved oval flat foot.  Bottle mouth is flat.  Domed jadeite cabochon stopper with ivory spoon.  Height is 4.2 cm, weight is 36.6 g, without stopper.

Period: ca. 19th century.   

Condition: Good, with some surface dibbling from wear and a small nibble on the outer mouth lip.  Bottle has seen some use and has a hint of snuff aroma on the interior.   

Provenance:  White Lotus Gallery, Eugene, Oregon (2018)
                      Bonhams & Butterfields Sale #SOM05081SF, San Francisco between 2002-2010

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« Reply #14 on: August 14, 2022, 07:29:28 am »

The next bottle [56mm] has super thin hollowing as it's main attraction. Some banding inside the raised carved footrim.


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« Reply #15 on: September 10, 2022, 10:49:40 pm »


All, cataloging another recent agate bottle purchase.  As it turned out this was one of my better buys at just $75 USD.  Given its size, quality, smooth tactile feeling (i.e., a 'worry stone' experience) and overall form, this bottle will likely be elevated to and remain one of the 'flagship' bottles of my collection.   

Agate Snuff Bottle:
A very well and uniformly hollowed agate bottle of flatten circular form, translucent caramel color with black-brown splotching and mini-facial inclusions.  Frontal stone inclusions are akin to geese in flight over reeds, vera is a landscape of a river emerging from a craggy mountain scape as it enters a lake.  Each face has a very subtle dimple which naturally pushes the bottle to a balance point between the thumb and index finger when held; very satisfying tactilely.  Bottle rest on a rectangular oval pedestal that is slightly concave which forms a subtle footrim.  Stopper is a pearlescent white glass cabochon imitating moonstone set in a silver bezel with an incorporated silver spoon.  Height is just 5.0 cm by 1.5 cm wide, 32.7 g, without stopper.  Weight to Height Ratio [WHR = 0.654]. 

Period: ca. 18th - 19th century.   

Condition:  Pristine, with appropriate patina to silver fittings.

Provenance: Unknown, acquired from eBay seller in Southborough, Massachusetts.

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« Reply #16 on: September 11, 2022, 01:18:31 am »

Dear Charll,
I perfectly understand and agree with the premise of your description. There are apparently simple bottles which are actually bordering perfection because of the subtle beauty of their shape and lines. These are the preferred ones because they are clearly speaking about the fine taste of the carver.
I like your bottle very much, the geese flying over reeds is most appropriate.
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« Reply #17 on: September 11, 2022, 02:44:36 pm »

Charll,  David and I also love agate bottles and this one would definitely be a keeper.  Adore the geese flying over the reeds on the front.  So glad you have this beauty and at such a great price! 
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« Reply #18 on: September 12, 2022, 12:26:14 am »

Charll,
A great find. I totaly agree with Jo's sentiments!
Following Brian's lead, all you need is a title for the bottle. 'Taking Flight'...?

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« Reply #19 on: September 12, 2022, 12:48:56 pm »


Thank you all for the comments. 

Tom, like the title for the bottle you provided and will likely use it if, or when, I start giving a title header to each bottle in the collection.

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