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January 27, 2022, 07:45:56 pm
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« on: October 19, 2021, 02:49:54 pm »

Hello,

I collect many things ( chess sets, steins, lacquer, playing cards) but not snuff bottles. I am hoping someone can help me identify this bottle. I am under illusion that it is rare or valuable; I found it at a very reasonable priced while hunting other items. I was attracted to the incised design in the clay before being fired. Fake? Good fake? Something?

Any information would be greatly appreciated!

Thank you,

Chris


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« Reply #1 on: October 19, 2021, 06:56:51 pm »

Illusion is the right word, Chris.
Better luck next time.
But please register etc.
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« Reply #2 on: October 19, 2021, 10:48:55 pm »


Chris, welcome to the Forum.

You have a famille noire (black) enamel dragon design snuff bottle.  From the original pictures you provided it looks like the dragon design is etched into the bottle body or the overglaze to provide an outline for use and placement of the white enameled dragon.  The bottle likely dates from the last quarter of the 19th century into the first half of the 20th century (1875-1949).  This is not a high quality piece, likely mass produced, and use in the local domestic market and/or tourist trade at the at the time.  The base mark appears the be done by use of a stamp.  The best analogy I can come up with is that this is the ‘Avon bottle’ in the snuff bottle genre.   Collectable, but not a piece of art. 

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« Reply #3 on: October 20, 2021, 02:25:47 am »

So sorry ... In my original post I meant to say 'under NO illusion it was rare or valuable' ... I thought it was a mass produced item. Typically, I buy a few inexpensive items from a collecting area to learn more and eventually only buy better or best items.

Thanks for the information!
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« Reply #4 on: October 20, 2021, 03:56:21 am »

Dear Chris,

Glad you found us and decided to pop in and ask.
It will be great if you can write something about yourself in the introduction column next to the Lounge.

I started collecting not by choice and yet have love this new hobby ever since.

My thoughts are quite similar to Charll on your Snuff Bottle.

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