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« on: April 01, 2021, 04:50:44 am »

Dear all,
I went fishing again and would like to share a new fish: "A large molded and enameled porcelain "leaping carp" snuff bottle Finely molded and painted in bright enamels as a large fish with raised scales emerging from crashing waves forming the oval base, its mouth forming the neck of the bottle." Smiley Smiley
Proveniance:  French collection > Boisgirard-Morini, Paris > Galerie Zacke, Vienna

But I have a request. The only parallel example I know is from Moss/Sargent
(35.1.1024). It is from a different mould from the Bloch p. 730 double fish (that is in our collection), the twin fish seems to have been produced in larger numbers, some in iron-red enamel.  I have examples of both colour combinations. I wonder if anybody knows about further examples of the larger single carp.

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Georges


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« Reply #1 on: April 02, 2021, 07:25:13 am »

Hi Georges,

Sorry, I am unable to offer any help with this one.

Best,
Tom
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« Reply #2 on: April 02, 2021, 11:36:46 am »

Dear Georges ,

Thanks for sharing a very nice molded bottle! Love it.

You are right about the double fish have been produced a quite lot, I only can find a couple of single ones which is not the same mold as yours, but at least similar .

I also find one double carp molded bottle with similar color as yours.


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« Reply #3 on: April 02, 2021, 12:39:22 pm »

Dear Steven,
thanks for your message. The twin fish you posted belongs manifestly to a common group, most of the bottles of this model being entirely decorated in the traditional palette. A nearly identical bottle is illustrated by Moss et al. (2008),  p. 730. For another version, which appears to be similarly coloured to this one, despite a caption saying it is decorated with famille-rose enamels, see Hong Kong 1977, no. 113; and for two that are certainly of similar colouring, see Sotheby's, Hong Kong, 1 November 1995, lot 969, and Hall 2003, no. 31. Others are in Hall 1996, no. 7; Lawrence 1996, no. 89; Sotheby's, Hong Kong, 28 April 1997, lot 58 (a rare version in iron-red with black eyes).
But the single and a bit taller carp (abt 9,4 cm) in the same colour scheme appears to be very seldom. The only parallel example I know about is published by Moss/Sargent   II,  35.1.1024 (Provenance: Moss Ltd., 1970; Philip S. Brachman; Bonhams, New York, 13 March 2017, lot 1071). I'm persuaded there must be more, but where? Wink Wink
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Georges


 


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« Reply #4 on: April 02, 2021, 02:21:41 pm »

If I remember it right, your bottle is about 10 cm tall? if its, it could be a table bottle, which is much less produced than normal bottles, maybe that is the reason its not so common , That is my guess.

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« Reply #5 on: April 02, 2021, 02:38:02 pm »

yes, 9,4 cm (without stopper)
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