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« on: September 30, 2019, 05:13:40 am »

Hi Guys,
     As you may be aware, there is a sale of Ted Adameck's collection coming up at I. M. Chait end of this week.
     Some of the lots were featured in a catalog published by Chris Randall some years ago (~1992 ?). Does anyone have a copy of the price list that went with it?

Thanks,
Tom


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« Reply #1 on: September 30, 2019, 10:40:37 am »

Dear Tom,

    I was not aware. I will check out Chait's. Sorry, I don't have the pricelist [or indeed the catalogue!] of the Adameck/Marlow sale, though I was friendly with both during the 1981 ICSBS Honolulu convention...
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« Reply #2 on: September 30, 2019, 02:53:19 pm »


Tom,

I have the price list.  Let me see if I can get it scanned and emailed to you.

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« Reply #3 on: September 30, 2019, 11:51:49 pm »


I have the price list.  Let me see if I can get it scanned and emailed to you.


Thanks Charll...!
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« Reply #4 on: October 02, 2019, 05:37:31 am »

Dear Tom,
    I was not aware. I will check out Chait's. Sorry, I don't have the pricelist [or indeed the catalogue!] of the Adameck/Marlow sale, though I was friendly with both during the 1981 ICSBS Honolulu convention...
Best,
Joey

Dear Joey,
     I have made a scan of the complete 1992 catalog if you, or anyone else for that matter, wants it. Just send me a PM. It's around 10 MB in total.
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« Reply #5 on: October 02, 2019, 03:04:28 pm »


Tom,

I emailed you my "marked up" copy of the price list.  Would you like me to mail a clean unmarked copy to you?

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« Reply #6 on: October 02, 2019, 05:10:02 pm »

Dear Charll,

     Thank you, but no need.
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« Reply #7 on: October 02, 2019, 10:23:55 pm »

Thanks Charll, but not necessary.

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« Reply #8 on: October 03, 2019, 06:38:37 am »

Hi Tom,

Spoilt for choice on agates there, there's almost too many which makes choosing more difficult. It will be interesting to see how the prices go when there are so many similar bottles. Will the best few be chased with others going cheap! Although I keep reminding myself, go for quality.

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« Reply #9 on: October 03, 2019, 09:28:49 am »

I've asked Clare Chu to check out some bottles for me.
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« Reply #10 on: October 05, 2019, 02:06:58 pm »

I'm still rather new to all this and haven't honed my "eye" quite yet, but does anyone else feel this collection varies quite widely in quality?
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« Reply #11 on: October 05, 2019, 03:04:03 pm »

Dear Brian,

     Ted Adameck, who I considered a friend, and whom I'd known from 1981 to 2016 [last time I saw him, in Honolulu. I took him and another friend out to lunch, that visit.], was never famous for the quality of his wares. He just didn't have the eye. But he was good at picking out genuine antiques.
I asked Clare Chu to look at 7 different bottles:
lots 65, 113, 137, 140, 157, 208, and 284.
She replied that lot 157 was nice - an 8/** [my ranking system goes from 1/*
to 10/***], but the others were all CRAP.
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I asked Clare Chu to look at 7 different bottles:
lots 65, 113, 137, 140, 157, 208, and 284.
She replied that lot 157 was nice - an 8/** [my ranking system goes from 1/*
to 10/***], but the others were all CRAP.

Joey,

That's interesting. Maybe I'm getting a little better as I liked #284 too. I noticed many of the bottles are marked "FLOATER" on the bottom. My understanding is that means it can actually float since it's been hollowed out so well. Is that really a thing? Are collectors still really dunking their bottles in water to see, or is this more of an old-school thing?

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« Reply #13 on: October 05, 2019, 03:54:07 pm »

Dear Brian,

      Please re-read my last post more carefully.  Roll Eyes
284 was part of the group described as CRAP by Clare Chu.
She actually said DREADFUL....  Roll Eyes Shocked
But don't feel too bad. I thought it looked good as well, over the screen.
You only get a gold star for picking a winner, if you chose #157    Grin
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« Reply #14 on: October 05, 2019, 05:17:41 pm »

One thing that struck me about the collection was how many of the bottles were very well hollowed. Even the ones not specifically mentioned as well hollowed looked well hollowed and that concerned me, I had doubts about the age of some because to have collected that many genuine old bottles, all of them so well hollowed seemed unlikely.

Another thing that concerned me age wise was a couple of bottles initially looking good and then noticing one whose neck was not finished off level and another that wasn't symmetrical, both of which seemed wrong on genuine old quality bottles. Also, while stoppers can't be assumed to be genuine, there were very few good stoppers and too many relatively plain stoppers on black plastic looking collars.

But maybe that is just me  Undecided

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« Reply #15 on: October 05, 2019, 05:40:26 pm »

Joey,

Well, I guess no points for me for reading comprehension! I'm really beginning to see why attending these auctions is critical. Feeling the bottle in your hand really tells so much more of the story that the photos leave out.

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« Reply #16 on: October 05, 2019, 05:44:18 pm »

Adrian,

I noticed quite a few non-level bottles too. Or maybe the necks were just ground/polished unevenly. Scared me off quite a few actually. I ended up not actually bidding on anything because the general quality of the collection was just so all-over-the-place it made me think that it was a real crap-shoot finding anything of true quality. Kind of like your observation regarding the well-hollowed bottles.

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« Reply #17 on: October 05, 2019, 11:56:16 pm »

Has anyone found the auction results on the I M Chait website?

I've searched through it, but cannot find any link showing the prices realized.
All I get are the pre-sale estimates.

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« Reply #18 on: October 06, 2019, 02:54:13 am »

Hi Tom.

You used to be able to get past results on the Invaluable auction site but I just tried and see they are now charging to access past results on a subscription basis.

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« Reply #19 on: October 06, 2019, 11:23:44 am »

Tom,

If this link works here you go: https://www.liveauctioneers.com/catalog/150834_snuff-bottles-from-the-estate-of-ted-adameck/

Note these are the bid price and does not include the auction premium.

I did acquire 5 bottles out of this auction; a yellow glass (lot 74), one of the agates from the 1992 catalog (lot 210), and a three bottle group (lot 91) that many collectors/dealers may consider crap, but there is one bottle in the group I wanted to take a hard look at, and it is not the glass imitating jasper.

Charll
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