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DDbySnS
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« on: July 01, 2019, 08:33:15 pm »

Hello Forum Members,
This bottle is one of my favorites. It is about 3 inches tall (7.62 cm) and just about an inch wide. I would like your opinions on age. I think it is from the Republic period but I'm not sure. It appears to have signs of age (which I know can be faked) and it seems to be well decorated (to me). In fact, I think it is beautiful. There is a Qianlong mark in a double square border on the base, which I believe to be apocryphal. The spoon is either bone or ivory, but definitely not plastic. All comments are appreciated.
Shea


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« Reply #1 on: July 02, 2019, 03:33:00 pm »

Hi Shea, what lovely tiger bottle, I also collect tiger bottles as I was born in the year of the tiger going downhill, I've been going down hill ever since! Roll Eyes  The nose is slightly to sharp but who cares, I wish I had found it. Were did you buy it from?

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« Reply #2 on: July 02, 2019, 03:44:50 pm »

Hi Jason!
Thank you! I bought it at an online auction.
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« Reply #3 on: July 02, 2019, 03:51:36 pm »

Based on your pictures, I'm thinking that your bottle is modern, but I'm not an expert.
Anyway, nice item! Wink

Albert.
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« Reply #4 on: July 02, 2019, 09:26:56 pm »

Thanks Albert. I really like it. The painting is so detailed from the stripes on the tiger to the blades of grass.
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« Reply #5 on: July 04, 2019, 08:23:07 am »

Hi Shea,

This appears to be a good quality modern bottle, the painting being executed by an enamel artist with some skill.

As with the new wave of modern enamel-on-glass bottles, I hope it won't be long before the artists begin signing their works, following the example of You Fenghua.

Tom
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« Reply #6 on: July 04, 2019, 09:45:03 am »

Thank you for the additional information, Tom. I've been trying to find others like it, but no luck so far.
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« Reply #7 on: July 04, 2019, 12:16:37 pm »

Shea,

If ever you want to get rid of it please let me know. I concur with the new diagnoses.  Wink
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« Reply #8 on: July 04, 2019, 02:24:58 pm »

Hi Jas,

I'm kind of attached to this one. I will definitely keep you in mind if I ever come across a similar one.

A couple questions: when you more experienced collectors say "modern", what is the oldest that you would consider the bottle to be? Is it similar to "contemporary" when referring to art, which would place it no earlier than the 2nd quarter of the  20th century? I ask because there are definite signs of age such as signs of oxidation on the white enamel. If modern includes the last 20 to 40 years then I think that would probably be consistent with what I see. Also, the interior is enameled as well; if that helps with dating at all. Sorry for my ignorance but I'd like to narrow down the age as much as possible.

If there are books or online resources that may help, please let me know. I have an enameled porcelain one that also has an apocryphal mark and I would really like to put a date range on that one too.

Thanks everyone for responding!
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« Reply #9 on: July 04, 2019, 03:45:54 pm »

So, I found some very useful resources in the Research/Technical forum and just ordered The Collectors Book of Snuff Bottles. But I have what I know is a very novice question: what do you all mean by middle-period, end-middle-period, modern and so on?
Thanks,
Shea
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« Reply #10 on: July 04, 2019, 07:22:51 pm »

Hi Shea,

This appears to be a good quality modern bottle, the painting being executed by an enamel artist with some skill.

As with the new wave of modern enamel-on-glass bottles, I hope it won't be long before the artists begin signing their works, following the example of You Fenghua.

Tom

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« Reply #11 on: July 04, 2019, 07:35:51 pm »

I've been researching all day, looking for books and other resources to learn more as well as examples of bottles like mine. I now see that the form of the bottle is unlike the older bottles. It is more rounded with a narrower neck and also larger.
Thank you all for your help!
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