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« Reply #20 on: September 16, 2020, 02:46:58 pm »

Dear Stacey,

    We call it 'Yixing' and I've seen the teapots called 'Zisha' [purple clay?].
In Hong Kong, the former British Governor's Mansion [I think] or at least a British Military structure from the 19th C.,
was converted to a Chinese Tea & Zisha Teaware Museum.
We visited it in 2014 at the ICSBS Hong Kong & Xian convention. I only went to the HK part and continued on to Taipei Taiwan-ROC, and then Singapore and Bangkok,
visiting FORUM friends and eating delicious Roast Duck, Roast Goose, and other delicious Chinese and Japanese foods [though no blood products, pork, shellfish, or molluscs, of course].
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« Reply #21 on: September 16, 2020, 03:04:12 pm »

Dear Brian,

     I've loved the Black Jade with the eagle; the Embellished Malachite; the three Martin Schoen enamel bottles; the enamelled bottle on the frontispiece; the Ma Shaoxuan portrait; and the Ye Bengqi inside painted of the tropical birds and foliage, since I first received the book as a Bar Mitzva gift in Feb.1970!
I have the last one in my collection, and I had the three Martin Schoen enamels from 1988 to 1992.

I also ate  a wonderful whole Dover Sole twice, once with Curt & Karen Lam, and the next day with Prof. Yossi Garfinkel, the archaeologist whose digs I've been sponsoring for over 12 years. And wonderful Japanese Kaiseki dinners, with Yossi and then the next day with Clare.
And my first night, Clare and I joined the two sweet girls who work for the auctioneer, Amelie and Alice, and I also had a wonderful whole Dover Sole. We ate at the restaurant at Cafe de la Paix, near the Opera House.

I wanted a genuine Hornbill also from age 13, and at one time had a Hornbill Beak bottle and a Hornbill bottle, but both were modern and homemade.
John Ang, my fellow teenage collector, sent me a Hornbill skull in the mail. It cost him US$25 w/shipping.
I made both snuff bottles. I gave them away possibly 30 years ago.
Best,
Joey



Joey,

Sounds like that was quite the experience. Funny that we are both so attracted to that bottle, but then again it is amazing, so who wouldn't be.  Grin What was the damage to it that needed to be repaired? I've actually wondered how often the glue for the embellished items fails and things start falling off.

I think you got a supreme example of a hornbill. My grandfather had two beaks and two helmet bottles, but none as nice as that one.

Best,
Brian
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« Reply #22 on: September 16, 2020, 05:06:31 pm »

Hello Joey,

Thank you Joey for the correct spelling, I realised my mistake in spelling and corrected it just before reading your reply. I'm dyslexic and sometimes will switch or add/subtract letters. Usually I catch it with a quick proofread, sometimes I don't.  Roll Eyes Smiley

You're right, Zisha is "purple sand" clay. I'm sure the museum is full of amazing tea related treasures! The Chinese teapots, caddies and chests are something to behold. Also, to hold for that matter..I'm finding the tactile quality of SBs akin to the tea ware..they feel and fit so nicely in the hand.

Even as a long time vegetarian I like reading of these food adventure you have on your journeys. Smiley You are quite the enthusiastic diner and your infectious enjoyment shines through in your writing. Smiley

Cheers,

Stacey
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« Reply #23 on: September 17, 2020, 06:58:18 am »

Hi Stacey & Joey

Actually, Zisha is the correct name for the the material. Yixing is the name of the place that produce most of these Zisha teapots and other products.

For your reference.

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« Reply #24 on: September 17, 2020, 10:55:13 am »

Hello Richard,

I was so excited to have seen a Zisha SB in the catalogue Charll posted, that I got a bit discombobulated. Grin
Many thanks for your clarification.

Best wishes,

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« Reply #25 on: September 17, 2020, 10:13:06 pm »

Stacey,

If you ever visit Milwaukee, our airport has an area specifically designed for you.  Grin

Brian


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« Reply #26 on: September 19, 2020, 12:04:26 am »

Brian and Stacey,
I have never come across this word or its antonym before, so I looked it up. It appears to have been invented in Milwaukee...!
In case anyone's interested, here's how it came about....

Before you go scouring your lexicons, no, “recombobulation” is not in the dictionary. The word was invented by Barry Bateman, former airport director at General Mitchell International Airport in Milwaukee, and its definition is fairly intuitive, the opposite of discombobulation. Per Bateman’s suggestion, a sign for a “Recombobulation Area” was hung up after the security checkpoint in one of the terminals in 2008. The goal was to add a bit of humor to the stressful security process.

“He understood that traveling can be stressful and the signs are intended to put a smile on people’s faces,” Harold Mester, the airport’s public relations manager, told OnMilwaukee.

But for a made-up word, it serves a much-needed purpose. Every terminal in Mitchell International now includes a designated Recombobulation Area, complete with benches and chairs for passengers to put on their shoes, gather their belongings, and yes, recombobulate.

Despite the word not being among those recently added to the dictionary, the signs have been fully accepted by the TSA due to their overwhelmingly positive response. Even the grammar enthusiasts approve. In 2009, “recombobulation” was named the American Dialect Society’s most creative word of the year.

So far, no other airports have followed suit with their own recombobulation areas, but doing so would be in their best interest. As airports try to take full advantage of the digital age with robots that escort passengers to their gates and multi-billion dollar renovations, they may find that the simple things—a joke and a helpful gesture—carry the most meaning in their industry, as they do in life.


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« Reply #27 on: September 19, 2020, 11:38:04 am »

Tom,

Yes, first time I visited (well, rather left after visiting) Milwaukee, I saw this sign and knew Milwaukee was the right place to live. I love the sense of humor and laid back nature up here, the sign just cinched it.

Brian
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« Reply #28 on: September 21, 2020, 02:00:40 pm »

Brian, that's bloody brilliant! Right up my alley!  Grin This gave me a good laugh, thanks for posting!  Cheesy

Cheers!

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« Reply #29 on: September 21, 2020, 02:06:25 pm »

Thanks Tom for the etymology of recombobulation. That's quite a good word even if it's made up. Smiley

Cheers,

Stacey
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« Reply #30 on: September 26, 2020, 08:29:24 am »

Dear Stacey,

      Thank you.
   At the Tea Museum in the Mid-Peak level of Hong Kong's Victoria Island, one can also try different teas in a tea house, though it is a Chi-Com tea house [ie., changed from a private intimate structure into a more mass-pop. type experience. But still good.].

Actually, I'm also a bit Dyslexic, when nervous or under pressure. I try to proofread everything. But when calm, I can read and absorb 60+ pages an hour in English.
10 pages an hour in Hebrew [but Hebrew is much more concise]; and maybe half a page an hour in Arabic [If I'm lucky].

But I've more problems from my Dysnumeria [same but with numbers], and much more from my Dyspraxia [clumsiness, to be honest Wink].
And I've a minor case of Aspergers, so I tell the truth, even when I should keep my mouth shut. But so far, G-D's Protected me from my mistakes.

Once, I was late going to pick up my big brother at the airport, 40 min. northwest of Jerusalem. I was going 122 km/hr., when the legal limit was 90 km./hr.
G-D Helped me reduce to 108 km/hr., and I was caught at that speed. The cop yells at me,"You were going 108 km/hr!" I replied,
"Actually, I was going 122 km./hr., but had just slowed down to 108 km./hr."
The cop looked at me, and said, "In 28 years as a policeman, this is the first time ANY driver has corrected me like that! We will leave it at 108 km. on the ticket.
But if you'd had an accident, G-D Forbid, you'd never get to the airport, and you big brother would be at your funeral and Shiv'a!"
I've not speeded since.

Best,
Joey


Hello Joey,

Thank you Joey for the correct spelling, I realised my mistake in spelling and corrected it just before reading your reply. I'm dyslexic and sometimes will switch or add/subtract letters. Usually I catch it with a quick proofread, sometimes I don't.  Roll Eyes Smiley

You're right, Zisha is "purple sand" clay. I'm sure the museum is full of amazing tea related treasures! The Chinese teapots, caddies and chests are something to behold. Also, to hold for that matter..I'm finding the tactile quality of SBs akin to the tea ware..they feel and fit so nicely in the hand.

Even as a long time vegetarian I like reading of these food adventure you have on your journeys. Smiley You are quite the enthusiastic diner and your infectious enjoyment shines through in your writing. Smiley

Cheers,

Stacey
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« Reply #31 on: September 26, 2020, 08:31:20 am »

So, Richard,

Should one catalogue such a snuff bottle as:  'Zisha snuff bottle made in Yixing' ?
Thank you for the information.
Best,
Joey



Hi Stacey & Joey

Actually, Zisha is the correct name for the the material. Yixing is the name of the place that produce most of these Zisha teapots and other products.

For your reference.

Regards.


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« Reply #32 on: September 26, 2020, 03:39:06 pm »

Hello Joey,

You're welcome. The Victoria Island tea house sounds quite lovely. I would imagine they have a marvelous collection of tea on hand to sample. I love that the tea pots from Yixing are unglazed and absorb the oils from the teas brewed in them. 

By your description you could be my brother from another mother (other than being able to read Hebrew or Arabic, that is).  Grin  I've always said if I had a middle name it would be 'klutz', numbers are my nemesis, and I'm honest to my own detriment. That said, my cruising speed is around 120kph...thankfully on the highway I travel most, the speed limit has been upped to just over 100kph so should I ever get caught, it won't be too horrible a fine.

Best wishes,

Stacey
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« Reply #33 on: October 23, 2020, 05:37:17 pm »

Dear Stacey,

     It sounds like you also have Dyspraxia, Dysnumeria, and a case of Aspergers; just like me. When first I was diagnosed with Dyslexia, 54 years ago, it was the 'catch-all term' for the gamut of 'Dys-' syndromes.
But I was told that they usually come with a high IQ.

    Indeed, when my good friend, then the Protestant rector near my Irish estate, Nigel Waugh, wanted to go do the MENSA IQ test, I agreed to go with him.  A few weeks later, I received a letter asking for I£ 25.00 for registration and first year's membership in MENSA, or I£50.00, if I wanted a sterling silver MENSA pin [instead of the bog standard base metal one I would receive with my registration and first year's membership].
The letter started with, "We are pleased to welcome you into MENSA, after your IQ test revealed that you have an IQ of 158..."

Needless to say, I was too smart to join a group of [mainly, in the experience of my cousins and myself] over-qualified under-achievers.
Nigel, the rector, called and asked if I'd not passed either. He had got 146 and I think the minimum was 148.

I said that my cousins Dianne & Bernie Cooperman had joined in the early 1970s, when Bernie was doing his PHD in Jewish History, at Harvard.
They said that they went to their first few meetings with high hopes of meeting 'movers and shakers'.
Most of the people there were NOT actually very successful, except for the ones with 155 looking noticeably down on the ones  with less, and in turn being looked down upon by those with 165, etc., etc.
For most, their chief claim to fame WAS getting into Mensa....

I relayed this to Nigel, my friend. I reminded him that he had a wonderful marriage and 4 wonderful children who were all healthy, happy, and successful. That he was a canon in the Church of Ireland [equivalent to the Anglican Church in England or Canada, the Episcopal Church of Scotland,
etc.], and ran Bunclody Union, a combined area with 7 churches under his control and the local Protestant school, as well as the Diocesan Magazine, etc. 
 I also reminded him that after I'd wrecked a Centurion tank during tank driving lessons, I was sent to teach English, Geography, Bible and History to officers and noncoms in the Army High School. And my brother wrote me, "Thems that cans, does; thems that can'ts, teaches!"
I said, "Nigel, you can! What's your problem?"

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Joey
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« Reply #34 on: October 24, 2020, 05:48:49 am »

Hi Joey

Yes, that should be it.

To be accurate, you may add that it is 'Zisha clay snuff bottle made in Yixing'.

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Richard

So, Richard,

Should one catalogue such a snuff bottle as:  'Zisha snuff bottle made in Yixing' ?
Thank you for the information.
Best,
Joey



Hi Stacey & Joey

Actually, Zisha is the correct name for the the material. Yixing is the name of the place that produce most of these Zisha teapots and other products.

For your reference.

Regards.


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« Reply #35 on: October 25, 2020, 02:22:51 pm »

Thank you, Richard.
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« Reply #36 on: November 05, 2022, 03:47:05 pm »

All,

Just back from the 2022 ICSBS Convention held in San Francisco last week.  One of the dealers, Mark Powley of Powley Oriental Arts in San Francisco,  provided me an electronic catalog of many of the bottles that he had on display in the Dealers Room at the convention.  See the attached link to view the bottles.

Link:  https://heyzine.com/flip-book/319e210ee0.html 

Charll

P.S.- not sure how long this catalog will remain accessible, but the link works presently. 
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« Reply #37 on: November 05, 2022, 06:45:17 pm »

Dear Charll,

    What's an "election catalogue"?
Is it good till next Tuesday?
Some nice bottles, but without any provenance,
not to mention prices, hard to think seriously.
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« Reply #38 on: November 05, 2022, 10:55:02 pm »


Joey, your looking at Mark's catalog with to much of a critical eye.  It's an exhibition catalog.  The Bonhams exhibition catalog of the Northern California Collectors was done in a similar manner without a collector's or a collection name, and little effort to providing provenance even though they had the information.  The Bonhams collectors catalog, though nice, was a little disappointing. 

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« Reply #39 on: November 06, 2022, 03:37:14 am »

Charll,

    If the man is showing his sales collection, I expect more information.
Were the bottles NOT for sale?
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