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Daoguang Cricket bottle ? (Update- Tongzhi mark)

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« on: January 30, 2019, 09:22:14 am »

Another bottle from a recent auction.

Enamelled porcelain bottle with a cricket on each side among flowers. Height is 63mm without stopper. Stopper is coral with a jade bead on a stained ivory collar. The mark looks to be a Daoguang mark 1821-1850.

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« Reply #1 on: January 31, 2019, 05:56:58 am »

Hi Adrian

Interesting bottle!

But it is a bit later than Daoguang as the mark reads "Tongzhi nian zhi".

For your reference.

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« Reply #2 on: January 31, 2019, 06:28:00 am »

Hi Richard,

Thank you for identifying the mark. As these cricket bottles are usually Daoguang I referenced similar ones and could see certain aspects of the mark were similar but it may have been the "nian zhi" part that I saw as similar hence the ? in the subject as to whether it was Daoguang or not.

I think Charll may have pointed out in another thread that cricket bottles later than Daoguang were less bulbous than the genuine Daoguang ones which fits with mine.


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« Reply #3 on: January 31, 2019, 12:27:12 pm »

Dear Adrian,
very nic ebottle, really nice.
Before reading Richard's comment, I found strange the flat shape for a Daoguang bottle.
It is surely mark and period, the enamels are perfect for Tongzhi.
Congratulations
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« Reply #4 on: January 31, 2019, 07:05:20 pm »

Dear Adrian,

     It looked very odd to my eye, as a Daoguang bottle.
But totally works as a Tongzhi bottle.
Tongzhi's dates are 1861 to 1875, but since the Imperial kilns were only restored in 1866, 8 years after the Taiping criminals destroyed Jingdezhen and murdered or took into slavery the 20,000 residents, your bottle, with a genuine Tongzhi Imperial reign mark, must date to ca.1866 - ca.1875.
Best,
Joey

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« Reply #5 on: February 01, 2019, 03:38:46 am »

Another great acquisition Adrian. Well done.

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« Reply #6 on: February 01, 2019, 05:59:42 am »

Thank you all for the comments.

There were a number of good bottles at the auction and I had hoped to secure another group in one lot but they went beyond what I was prepared to pay but am very happy to have got the ones I did and will post the others at some time.


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