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June 29, 2022, 04:23:09 am
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« Reply #20 on: September 24, 2021, 02:31:40 pm »

Charll, I think this bottle closely resembles yours, except with a single dragon.49mm.....John


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« Reply #21 on: September 27, 2021, 11:43:49 am »

Charll, I just pulled this reverse painted one out. Yours has more white in the head area maybe because of height? 62mm.....John


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« Reply #22 on: June 13, 2022, 12:46:53 pm »

Another from the Collection of the Blue Dragon Lady[75mm]. This example is reverse painted with a 5-clawed coiled dragon chasing a flaming pearl.


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« Reply #23 on: June 13, 2022, 03:19:43 pm »

Looks like a very good bottle, John.

But the photos are too dark to really tell.
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« Reply #24 on: June 13, 2022, 04:24:27 pm »


John,

Nice looking bottles, all three.  Can't judge them very well given the photo quality and overall blue background tone of the photo's.  I would hope to see these in person someday to better evaluate. 

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« Reply #25 on: June 13, 2022, 04:42:30 pm »

Dear John,

   Is that a DaQing Yongzheng Nianzhi seal mark?
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« Reply #26 on: June 14, 2022, 02:53:25 am »

Hi Joey

Yes, it is.

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« Reply #27 on: June 14, 2022, 03:04:15 am »

Hi Charll

I have helped John tweak the photos a bit.

Hopefully, they are better.

Regards.


Richard


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« Reply #28 on: June 14, 2022, 06:51:41 am »

Richard, thanks for your help with the photo's....John
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« Reply #29 on: June 14, 2022, 07:09:16 am »

Dear John,

    Now that Richard has 'cleaned up' the photos, I can see what a beauty the bottle is.
Thank you Richard.
Incidentally, no need for an apostrophe in a plural.
I know because, after I damaged a Centurion tank during tank driving while in the Israeli army,
they sent me to teach English to officers for the remaining 2 1/2 years of my 3 year compulsory military service!
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« Reply #30 on: June 14, 2022, 10:54:43 am »

This pair have the same coiled dragon as the previous post. They share some similar points as the neck decoration and the painting style. Tallest [80mm]


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« Reply #31 on: June 14, 2022, 02:01:14 pm »

Great Cylindrical Dragon bottles, John.
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« Reply #32 on: June 20, 2022, 12:55:11 pm »

I think this soft paste example has the face of the earlier dragon [84mm]


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« Reply #33 on: June 21, 2022, 12:14:19 pm »

Dear John,
agree with you, the face of the dragon is more similar to the Qianlong than the Guangxu ones. Especially those moon looking eyes. I do not think that the bottle is Qianlong because of the scales of the dragon, but I must say that it is a very nice bottle, I like it very much. The painting is superb.
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« Reply #34 on: June 21, 2022, 12:55:14 pm »

Giovanni, I agree with your comments. I have also noticed that the lower jaw is shorter than the later versions. Joey and Charll were asking about dating the bottles by the dragons faces....John
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