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« on: September 22, 2014, 11:33:15 pm »

Not having any luck identify these symbols around the base ..

Help ?

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« Reply #1 on: September 23, 2014, 01:59:30 am »

Dear George,

That is "Qian Long Nian Zhi", made in the year of emperor Qian Long.

The iron red mark looks good too.

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« Reply #2 on: September 23, 2014, 02:26:25 am »

Dear George,

That is "Qian Long Nian Zhi", made in the year of emperor Qian Long.

The iron red mark looks good too.

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YT

Not the mark am looking for information about YT... Trying to figure out what the symbolism meaning are for the enameled symbols around the base..
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« Reply #3 on: September 23, 2014, 02:45:46 am »

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   In that case, photograph the symbols face on, so we can see them without distortion. They look like the kind of stylised lozenges one sees around the base or neck of vessels, but to make a better guess/call, I'd need to see the design face on...
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« Reply #4 on: September 23, 2014, 03:31:11 am »

Oops!! Grin you should have been very familiar with Qianlong mark, sorry I misunderstood.


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« Reply #5 on: September 23, 2014, 04:30:25 am »

George,
   In that case, photograph the symbols face on, so we can see them without distortion. They look like the kind of stylised lozenges one sees around the base or neck of vessels, but to make a better guess/call, I'd need to see the design face on...
Best,
Joey

As soon as it arrives, will do Joey..  The one and only face on shot I have really distorts those enamel symbols...
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« Reply #6 on: September 23, 2014, 04:34:29 am »

Joey, I just looked up lozenges, and I think you may have got it..
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« Reply #7 on: September 23, 2014, 05:30:05 am »

Oops!! Grin you should have been very familiar with Qianlong mark, sorry I misunderstood.




No problem at all YT.  Smiley
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« Reply #8 on: September 23, 2014, 08:01:26 am »

Looks like space invaders George...

Just joking..... Cheesy

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« Reply #9 on: September 23, 2014, 08:11:29 am »

Looks like space invaders George...

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Lol Pin.... I think so too Tongue
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« Reply #10 on: September 23, 2014, 08:40:13 am »

Looks like space invaders George...

Just joking..... Cheesy

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Well, maybe a little resemblance to R2D2   Cheesy

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« Reply #11 on: September 23, 2014, 11:14:00 am »

Dear George,
this motif is very common, especially on vases of the 19th century, but it can be seen also on vases of the Qianlong period. I don't know its exact name, may be it is some sort of stylized lotus leaves? I don't know.
Anyway, if you have bought that vase as Qianlong, I am sorry to say that it doesn't look so to me, at least by this picture.
If you whish, you could send me the other pictures.
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Giovanni

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« Reply #12 on: September 23, 2014, 12:38:24 pm »


Giovanni,

The item George has posted is a snuff bottle recently sold at auction.  Upon viewing provided photos before the auction and as based on the observed condition, design, and use of enamels, I thought the bottle was early (1st quarter) 20th century.     

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« Reply #13 on: September 23, 2014, 01:51:40 pm »

Dear Charll,
thank you, that fits perfectly. I thougth it was a vase, and since YT said that the mark looks good, I understood that it was referred to a Qianlong vase.
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