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« Reply #200 on: June 08, 2022, 11:37:32 pm »

Hi John

Here is a brief history of the hall mark, Jixi Tang Zhi on the base.

According to one source, this hall mark Jixi Tang was actually an ancestral hall (祠堂) built by the eleven sons of Liang Junzhang (梁君杖) during the Jiaqing period.

As he was still alive when the hall was completed, it was renamed Jixi Tang (缉熙堂).

The name Jixi means brightness or brilliance and the Liang family has produced many talents and a history of eighty-one court officials during the Qing dynasty.

Jixi Tang is in the Guangdong province and has been converted into a school before. It is now a protected cultural heritage site of the city.

For your information.

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« Reply #201 on: June 09, 2022, 01:06:15 am »

Dear Richard,
I am always impressed by your knowledge.
This mark must be absolutely rare!! It is not included in the last release of Gerald Davison's book.
I have printed it with your explanation and added the page to my copy of the book.
Thank you very much.
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« Reply #202 on: June 09, 2022, 01:15:50 am »

Hi Richard,

Like Giovanni, I am always impressed by the extent of your knowledge in these matters!

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« Reply #203 on: June 09, 2022, 01:17:37 am »

Hi Giovanni & Tom

Thank you for your kind words.

It will be a pleasure to share what I know with all of you.

This mark, although rare, has appeared in a few instances.

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« Reply #204 on: June 09, 2022, 07:24:08 am »

Dear Richard,

    I agree with Giovanni and Tom L.
Thank you for all the knowledge you so willingly share.
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« Reply #205 on: June 09, 2022, 07:45:23 am »

Richard, again you have really impressed me! Your knowledge of calligraphy and Chinese history is the most I have ever seen....John
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« Reply #206 on: June 25, 2022, 12:08:40 pm »

This example looks like your standard pillar bottle with concentric rings until you look at the bottom [80mm]. I have not seen many kylin painted on the bottom of bottles.


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« Reply #207 on: June 25, 2022, 03:20:19 pm »

Dear John,

    {Actually a Bixi, not a Qilin.} WRONG [Joey].
A SUPERBLY painted bottle.
Wonderful!
Thank you for posting it.
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Joey
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« Reply #208 on: June 25, 2022, 10:30:12 pm »


John,

Another beautiful bottle and a bit of a surprise with the Qilin, or Kylin, as a base image.  Is this another one of those bottles from the 'Blue Dragon Lady' Collection? 

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« Reply #209 on: June 25, 2022, 11:23:49 pm »

Hi Joey

John and Charll are right, the base mark is a Qilin, not a Bixi. Bixi has a tortoise hell on it's back.

For your reference.

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« Reply #210 on: June 26, 2022, 12:30:03 am »

Oh.
Richard, I got a superb Kangxi Blue & White ginger jar with what I thought was a Bixi,
from Y.F. Yang of blessed memory. And it looked like this figure.

But I've just accessed Google, and of course you are all correct.
A Bixi is a dragon tortoise.
Thank you for the correction.
Best,
Joey
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« Reply #211 on: June 26, 2022, 07:14:14 am »

Everyone, I thought it was a Qilin. Charll, this is not from that collection....John
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« Reply #212 on: June 26, 2022, 08:10:21 am »

Guys, I've seen references to "the 'Blue Dragon Lady' Collection" a few times.
What is it? Or Who is it?
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« Reply #213 on: June 26, 2022, 12:17:41 pm »

Joey, the Blue Dragon Lady was a rich collector of everything dragons[mostly blue] from Wilmington, Delaware. The collection was sold at my local auction on 2-23-2009. When I walked into the auction my jaw dropped, there were thousands of dragon items. I was able to buy33 bottles....John
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« Reply #214 on: June 26, 2022, 12:41:35 pm »

Dear John,

  33 Bottles?! Wow!
 That sounds like a once in a lifetime score!
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« Reply #215 on: June 27, 2022, 11:31:03 am »

This next example looks like the standard piller bottle with concentric rings and it is. 80mm. This came from a B&W collection that I found at a small auction in 2003. There were 3 piller bottles in the group....John


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« Reply #216 on: June 27, 2022, 02:46:57 pm »

Another beauty, John.
Thank you for posting it.
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« Reply #217 on: June 27, 2022, 09:16:21 pm »

I agreed. Another beauty indeed!
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« Reply #218 on: July 10, 2022, 06:57:23 am »

The last of the piller bottles from the collection I bought in 2003 [77mm].


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« Reply #219 on: July 10, 2022, 09:59:46 am »

Wow, John!
Another stunning dragon pillar bottle.
Wonderful,
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