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« Reply #320 on: June 19, 2022, 05:04:36 am »

Hi Bob

Nice bottle.

I think what Joey is saying is that your photos have too much space on the top of the bottle. You may want to crop the top of the image. Your picture sizes are good.

Joey, the term you used 'thumbnail' is correct.

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« Reply #321 on: June 19, 2022, 07:59:25 am »

Dear Bob, I like your bottle. It is very similar to mine. Joey is right about the cropping. I try to crop mine as tight as possible to make the photo larger for viewing. This next example has thinner walls and a raised carved footrim [55mm].


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« Reply #322 on: June 19, 2022, 08:37:11 am »

Dear Bob,

    I am not even able to post things, so you are ahead of me there.
But it was problematic to look at your posts.
Thank you for understanding.
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« Reply #323 on: June 19, 2022, 10:30:14 am »

 Joey, after you let me know the size problem I went back and made them smaller. A lot better, but Richard and John both correctly suggested I crop the tops off. I'll be more prepared next time I post. Thanks again for the heads up. And John, another beautiful bottle. I noticed that both of the bottles you posted lacked spoons. Intentional?     Bob
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« Reply #324 on: June 19, 2022, 12:11:06 pm »

Bob, sometimes I do not put spoons in a clear bottle unless it comes with a nice old spoon....John
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« Reply #325 on: June 19, 2022, 04:26:04 pm »

Bob,  if you go back to my post, I also suggested you remove [crop] the top of the photos.
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« Reply #326 on: June 19, 2022, 04:57:38 pm »

 Yes Joey, you certainly did! I've been playing around with cropping my photos today and realized I just need to take better pictures from the start.
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« Reply #327 on: June 19, 2022, 10:35:31 pm »

One of my plain crystals, thicker walls on the sides[54mm]. Nice material and a raised carved footrim....John

Nice bottle John.
I do like the ones with thicker walls, especially when the inner profile closely follows the outer one.
They look especially striking when filled with snuff powder!

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« Reply #328 on: June 19, 2022, 10:53:27 pm »

Good evening, everyone. Plain crystal bottles are my favorite, and all of your examples are very nice. I've found a number of smoky crystal but have had a hard time finding clear examples unless you count my ip bottles. I do have this one that is similar to Johns with the wide walls at the sides but less sloping shoulders. It has a slightly concave mouth, raised footrim and is 59mm. I sure have enjoyed all the wonderful bottles you gentlemen have been posting! Looking forward to more.    Bob

Bob,
Another great bottle with thicker walls. And wonderful clarity, too.

Personally I always prefer to see a spoon in every bottle, especially when it is visible. The only exception is IP bottles, for obvious reasons.
A snuff bottle without a spoon is like a fine old pocket watch missing its hands. You can appreciate its age and quality, but it's incomplete.

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« Reply #329 on: June 20, 2022, 03:34:55 am »

I agree with Tom.
We are looking mainly at snuff bottles made for use, from the 'classical'
snuff bottle period - ca. 1650 - 1900 - and they would have had spoons.
Otherwise, how to remove the snuff?

With IPSBs, I have a number of Early period [ca. 1800 - 1850] IPSBs
which had been filled with snuff.
Two which come to mind, are by Gan Xuanwen, ca.1810-1830.
I've one with residue of light brown snuff, which makes the painting look as if it was painted on silk
which has aged.
The second had reddish snuff which has damaged the beauty of the painting, in my opinion.
I bought it because it had been in the collection of Paul Braga of blessed memory,
who'd been a good friend and mentor.
I do NOT put spoons in IPSBs for 2 reasons:
1. They could damage the painting, which is the chief objective of the bottle.
2. The shaft looks to me like that of a Space Elevator, and the Chinese in the Qing dynasty
didn't have Space Elevators. We still don't.  Roll Eyes Shocked Grin

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« Reply #330 on: June 20, 2022, 03:42:52 am »


2. The shaft looks to me like that of a Space Elevator, and the Chinese in the Qing dynasty
didn't have Space Elevators. We still don't.  Roll Eyes Shocked Grin


Dear Joey,
If it was a modern IP bottle, and the painting subject was a scene from Star Wars, the spoon could work....!  Grin

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« Reply #331 on: June 20, 2022, 03:52:20 am »

You are correct about that solving issue #2, Bob.  Wink Roll Eyes
But that still leaves issue #1 damage to the painting.
But a Space Elevator would be so cool, for moving people and goods into space easily and safely.

Of course, have gates which could connect through wormholes, so one could step through a gate in Jerusalem,
and exit immediately through a gate in Kailua on Oahu in Hawaii, would also be great...
I used to winter each year in a beach house on Kailua beach or on Lanikai beach [just Diamondhead of Kailua],  1989 - 1996,  1998 - 2004,
and 2006 - 2010.  Roll Eyes Grin

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« Reply #332 on: June 20, 2022, 11:20:44 am »

This next example is a little different. It has slightly raised oblong panels and the thin sides tapering to a flat foot [57mm].


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« Reply #333 on: June 20, 2022, 09:13:03 pm »

Thanks John,
I like the elegant way the lines of the side panels merge into the base.
At least, that's how it appears in the photo.

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« Reply #334 on: June 21, 2022, 11:36:43 am »

Beautiful bottle, John.
Thank you for sharing it.
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« Reply #335 on: June 21, 2022, 11:39:24 am »

Tom, because of the panels the thinner sides taper nicely into the foot....John
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« Reply #336 on: June 28, 2022, 11:32:44 am »

This next bottle is unusual for its thin profile [11mm]. The bottle [54mm] still shows the polish marks and is very difficult to clean. The rounded sides taper to a flat foot and it is free-standing The slightly flared neck has an oval mouth opening....John


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« Reply #337 on: June 28, 2022, 10:35:51 pm »

Thanks for sharing, John!

I just got this one lately. It is about 80mm tall without the stopper. I love it but too bad there's an internal crack. Maybe that's why there are some carvings on both sides. I think it looks more beautiful without the carvings.

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