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January 30, 2023, 12:15:17 pm
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« Reply #300 on: January 12, 2023, 12:15:13 pm »

Richard, thanks for the explanation. Charll, that appears to be from the same hand as mine.
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« Reply #301 on: January 16, 2023, 10:05:26 pm »

Hi John

I am coming back to your bottle in post #246. the woman carrying a baby in a garden scene with a man at the other end onlooking.

This appears to be the story of "The orphan of the Zhao family".

The Orphan of the Zhao family is based on historical records. The orphan was born during the Spring-Autumn Period – a time when imperial power was being eroded by the growth of numerous aristocratic family-states.

The story is as follows: schemed by the evil courtier Tu An Gu, the Zhao clan was all killed except for the Princess who was the Jin Ruler’s sister and was pregnant. After the baby was born, he was smuggled out by a loyal follower and doctor, Cheng Ying. Having realized that the baby boy had escaped, Tu An Gu gave the order to kill all the newly born boys in the country. Finally, Cheng Ying decided to give up his own child for the Zhao orphan.

The scene on the bottle shows Cheng's wife trying to carry their baby away. But she eventually agreed with her husband's plan.

Meanwhile, Cheng Ying and his friend, a retired minister Gongsun Chujiu made a plan. Cheng would report to Tu An about Gongsun who had the Zhao orphan in his house. Actually, the real Zhao orphan was hidden in the deep mountain while Cheng’s own baby son was with Gongsun. Tu An killed both Gongsun and the child. In order to reward Cheng Ying as a loyal reporter, Tu An took both Cheng Ying and his son (but actually Zhao’s offspring) to his house and Tu An made himself the foster father of the boy.

Sixteen years later, Cheng Ying revealed the true story to the young man. The orphan of Zhao took revenge on Tu An, for his parents, his clan, and for Cheng Ying.

This is an archetypal Chinese story of loyalty, honesty, sacrifice, friendship, evil, revenge, bravery, and justice.

For your reference.

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« Reply #302 on: January 17, 2023, 01:21:48 pm »

Richard, I can not believe you were able to figure that story out. Impressive as usual. I am posting 2 B&W& copper red bottles with the same motif as a follow up. I note the differences in the painting and colors from bottle to bottle, possibly by the same hand.


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« Reply #303 on: January 17, 2023, 03:28:25 pm »

Amazing story, Richard.
And very similar to some Greek stories.
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« Reply #304 on: January 23, 2023, 11:58:22 am »

Richard, this story is very similar to some of the early Kung Fu movies I have seen. This next bottle [74mm] has the "Golden thread" glaze which seems to be pretty common. A purchase from one of my earliest in person auctions in 1999.


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