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Title: Nine Fu dogs bottle
Post by: Fiveroosters aka clayandbrush on November 23, 2012, 11:55:59 am
Dear all,
I premise that the motif of this bottle, the iron red Fu dogs, is not one of my favorite. It is very common on vases and bowls of the early 20th century. But I must say that on this bottle the motif is quite pretty, nine dogs very finely drawn to my eyes. This too is part of the last purchased lot of bottles. It is 78 mm high. I believe that it must be of the period, I mean beginning of 20th century, regardless the mark.
Kind regards
Giovanni


Title: Re: Nine Pho dogs bottle
Post by: George on November 23, 2012, 01:40:08 pm
Beautiful... !



Title: Re: Nine Pho dogs bottle
Post by: Joey on November 23, 2012, 01:46:04 pm
Dear Giovanni,
    I love 'Pho' too, but with beef, never dog! Do you mean 'Fu' Dogs?
('Pho' is a Vietnamese soup; sorry, Giovanni, I couldn't help it!  ;D)
Joey


Title: Re: Nine Pho dogs bottle
Post by: Fiveroosters aka clayandbrush on November 23, 2012, 03:45:19 pm
Dear Joey,
absolutely funning, you won't believe why that. Yesterday I saw in the catalogue of a local aution a Fu dog, called by them as "Pho dog" and this made me laugh. I was joking within myself about that, wondering "why not phoo dog then?" and so on. Well it seems that it has been impressed in my mind, I did the same, and repeated it in the title and the text! I am laughing and ashamed at the same time, haha. I will correct it, thank you for pointing that out.
Giovanni


Title: Re: Nine Fu dogs bottle
Post by: Pat - 查尚杰 on November 23, 2012, 06:47:52 pm
Giovanni

I think it is a nice bottle...  but I am also not that fond of the Fu dog motif.


Title: Re: Nine Fu dogs bottle
Post by: Joey on November 23, 2012, 06:51:41 pm
Dear Giovanni,
    No need to be ashamed!
    I have a friend who told me about how she had a used tissue in one hand and a fifty Euro note in the other. She accidentally threw the note into the fire ( in Ireland we all have open fires still, as well as central heating), instead of the tissue. And her family can NOT afford that! Luckily, her husband was there and is very quick thinking and moving, and he saved the 50 Euros. She told me when I was over for a cup of tea, and I asked how she could do such a thing.
    She said, take a tissue in one hand and a Euro note in the other. Try and throw the tissue instead of the money, and see what happens. I, like an idiot, took a 50 Euro note as well. Would you believe I did THE SAME THING?!
    She was waiting, and saved my note, but did I feel stupid!
   The bottle is very sweet, and I was so busy with the Vietnamese Beef soup, I never noticed.
Erick Schiess, a dealer in snuff bottles and other Asian Arts in Portland, Oregon, is representing me with the
Braga collection. I'm bidding on 11 lots, but am not sure I'll get anything. G-D Willing, I will get the bottles I want.
Be well,
And always laugh - never be ashamed,
Joey


Title: Re: Nine Fu dogs bottle
Post by: Steven on November 23, 2012, 10:03:31 pm
Dear Giovanni,

A very nice bottle, I love the Fu dogs motif, one of my favorite subject besides the dragons. I actually will date this bottle a little bit early than you did, I would say it could be a later 19th bottle, since the Mark is a mark seal, which is very popular during the later 19th.

I just bought a blue and white Fu dogs bottle, will share it with all when it arrives.:)

Steven


Title: Re: Nine Fu dogs bottle
Post by: Joey on November 23, 2012, 10:21:51 pm
Congratulations, Steven! Wonderful.
Shabbat Shalom,
Joey


Title: Re: Nine Fu dogs bottle
Post by: Steven on November 24, 2012, 12:30:12 am
Thanks Joey,

But don't expect too much, ;) I can't afford any good blue&white bottle, mine would be a middle to low class bottle.or possible a modern fake :-[,I am not so confident about my porcelain knowledge.


Shabbat Shalom,

Steven


Title: Re: Nine Fu dogs bottle
Post by: rpfstoneman on November 24, 2012, 12:37:28 am

Giovanni,

Very nice looking bottle.  I too like this motif as shown by this previous post;

http://snuffbottle.smfforfree.com/index.php/topic,988.0.html

Charll


Title: Re: Nine Fu dogs bottle
Post by: Fiveroosters aka clayandbrush on November 24, 2012, 02:26:18 am
Dear Joey, you made me laugh, very funny.
Dear all, thank you. Of course I like the earlier dating made by Steven.
I too like the bottle as said, I find the motif quite fine in execution.
Giovanni


Title: Re: Nine Fu dogs bottle
Post by: Wattana on November 24, 2012, 09:05:11 am
Dear Giovanni,
    That is a fine looking bottle. I happen to like fu dogs.........and iron-red porcelains.
Tom


Title: Re: Nine Fu dogs bottle
Post by: richy88 on November 09, 2013, 09:55:43 am
Hi Giovanni

Nice bottle there.

I also have a porcelain bottle of the same theme but carved in relief. The glaze of light creamy colour, probably to imitate ivory.

Enjoy!


Richard


Title: Re: Nine Fu dogs bottle
Post by: Fiveroosters aka clayandbrush on November 30, 2021, 03:50:05 am
Dear all,
I consulted the Gerald Davison's book on Chinese Marks but I have not found the one that is on this bottle.
It is barely readable and I did try to enhance its contrast to make it more readable.
Is it possible to read it?
Thank you in advance.
Kind regards
Giovanni



Title: Re: Nine Fu dogs bottle
Post by: Joey on November 30, 2021, 07:27:40 am
Dear Giovanni,

    The inscription is read from top right down to bottom right and then from top left to bottom left.
[ x ] - meaning of character / { x } number of strokes in character [how you find a character in the dictionary]
First character - jiu  [nine] {2 stroke character}
Second character - ?
Third character - tong [same] {6 stroke character}
Fourth character - ju [residence] {8 stroke character}

But this is possibly not the Classical Chinese meaning.
I hope this is helpful.

Best,
Happy Hanuka,
Joey


Title: Re: Nine Fu dogs bottle
Post by: Fiveroosters aka clayandbrush on November 30, 2021, 09:58:17 am
Dear Joey,
thank you! I did try with Google translate and I see that you are correct with the first and third character, but the fourth character is indeed different, being Ju written this way: 据 while actually the character on the bottle is missing the vertical line on the left.
But it is good that you have found the character nine, which may indicate that the inscription is related to the subject of the bottle.
Let see if we will find more.
Kind regards
Giovanni


Title: Re: Nine Fu dogs bottle
Post by: Joey on November 30, 2021, 10:18:13 am
Dear Giovanni,

    Your 'ju' is not my 'ju'. I wrote out the character on your bottle, counting the strokes, then looked under 8 stroke characters.
It is DEFINITELY 'ju' with 8 strokes. But you must remember - there are 5 tones [actually 4 and a half-tone] of 'ju' in Mandarin, and each one is written differently.
Best,
joey


Title: Re: Nine Fu dogs bottle
Post by: Fiveroosters aka clayandbrush on November 30, 2021, 01:33:01 pm
OK, thank you dear Joey. Chinese language is not my field, "it looks like Chinese to me ;D". Note: here, when someone is facing something that he can't understand, he says that "it looks like Chinese to me".
Giovanni


Title: Re: Nine Fu dogs bottle
Post by: Joey on November 30, 2021, 05:37:22 pm
Dear Giovanni,

     In Canada we used to say, "It's Greek to me".  ::) ;D
In Israel we also say, "It's Chinese to me". Some people say, "It's Japanese to me."
I'm surprised that Richard Baey, YT, or Samson Lee,  have not helped.
Best,
Joey


Title: Re: Nine Fu dogs bottle
Post by: Wattana on November 30, 2021, 11:24:38 pm

     In Canada we used to say, "It's Greek to me".  ::) ;D


Dear Joey,

They say the same thing in the UK. My reply was always: "That's no problem at all!"
Or, to put it another way: Δεν είναι πρόβλημα !   ;D  ;D

Best,
Tom


Title: Re: Nine Fu dogs bottle
Post by: Joey on December 01, 2021, 04:11:06 am
Dear Tom,

    And to that, I reply  ' γειά σου ' !
Best,
Joey


Title: Re: Nine Fu dogs bottle
Post by: richy88 on December 01, 2021, 04:38:08 am
Hi Giovanni & all

The mark on the base reads "Jiu Shì Tóng Ju (九獅同居)", which literally means Nine Lions Living Together.

However, as the Chinese pronunciation for Lions (獅) is the same as Generations (世), it has the hidden meaning of "May you have nine generations together", a wish for longevity. Thus the hidden message is "九世同居".

For your reference.

Regards.


Richard


Title: Re: Nine Fu dogs bottle
Post by: Joey on December 01, 2021, 04:52:18 am
Dear Richard,

      I was wondering when you'd weigh in.
I'm chuffed that I got 3 of the four characters correctly. [Jiu, Tong & Ju].
I couldn't see the 2nd character [Shi] clearly enough to figure out the number of strokes.
And of course, I did not realise the Rebus meaning.
Thank you for your help to Giovanni, Richard, which has enriched the knowledge of all of us.
Best,
Happy Hanuka,
Joey


Title: Re: Nine Fu dogs bottle
Post by: Fiveroosters aka clayandbrush on December 01, 2021, 06:47:41 am
Dear Richard,
because we are also talking about sayings here, we have a say that is much appropriate to you: “Vale tanto oro quanto pesa”, which means that Richard “is worth as much gold as he weighs”.
Really appropriate. Thank you!!
A friend gave me an exceptional software for cataloging my collection. It is a really time-consuming stuff but worth to do, and I have just started. Will then add this precious information in the description of the nine Fu dogs bottle.
Kind regards
Giovanni


Title: Re: Nine Fu dogs bottle
Post by: richy88 on December 01, 2021, 08:04:51 am
Hi Joey & Giovanni

Thanks for your kind words!

In this case, I better put on some more weight to be more 'worthy'! ;D ;D ;D

Regards.


Richard


Title: Re: Nine Fu dogs bottle
Post by: Joey on December 01, 2021, 09:37:19 am
Dear Richard,
because we are also talking about sayings here, we have a say that is much appropriate to you: “Vale tanto oro quanto pesa”, which means that Richard “is worth as much gold as he weighs”.
Really appropriate. Thank you!!
A friend gave me an exceptional software for cataloging my collection. It is a really time-consuming stuff but worth to do, and I have just started. Will then add this precious information in the description of the nine Fu dogs bottle.
Kind regards
Giovanni


In English, the saying is "Worth his weight in gold".
A pity you are not the Aga Khan, Richard.
Every new Aga Khan is weighed on his ascension to the title, and he literally receives his weight in gold! ::) :D

Best,
Joey


Title: Re: Nine Fu dogs bottle
Post by: Fiveroosters aka clayandbrush on December 01, 2021, 10:25:48 am
Dear Richard,
you really made my day. Frankly speaking, I was not so enthusiast about this bottle; In general, I consider this subject as relatively late, thus not so interesting, but I kept the bottle due to the quality of the painting, that is high.
Now, what I thought that was a standard auspicious mark did turn out to be related to the subject of the ware, which explain why I didn’t find it on Gerald Davison’s book. It is probably the only example that I have seen. 
Dear Joey, thank you. You know that I like sayings so much.
Kind regards
Giovanni


Title: Re: Nine Fu dogs bottle
Post by: Joey on December 01, 2021, 11:09:10 am

     In Canada we used to say, "It's Greek to me".  ::) ;D


Dear Joey,

They say the same thing in the UK. My reply was always: "That's no problem at all!"
Or, to put it another way: Δεν είναι πρόβλημα !   ;D  ;D

Best,
Tom

And you are correct, Tom.
It is not a problem....
Joey


Title: Re: Nine Fu dogs bottle
Post by: rpfstoneman on October 13, 2022, 09:41:33 pm

All, just received this bottle today.  A recent acquisition from the Bonhams - The Joan and Ted Dorf Collection of Chinese Snuff Bottles and Archer’s Rings, New York.

Blue & White Porcelain Snuff Bottle:
Of cylindrical, slightly tapering, jarlet form with rounded shoulders and a flared raised neck, decorated in underglaze cobalt blue with a continuous scene of nine gamboling Buddhist/shi lions, three (3) with brocade balls in scrolling clouds.  Neck has a uniform a border of lingzhi heads.  Bottle rests on a raised unglazed foot rim with an apocryphal four-character Yongzheng nianzhi base mark in seal script.  Stopper is a dark blue lapis cabochon with black nylon collar and bamboo spoon.  Height is 5.7 cm (2¼ inches) without stopper.

Period: ca. 19th century, attributed to Jingdezhen
   
Condition: Near pristine with very minor surface abrasions. 

Provenance:   Bonhams, The Joan and Ted Dorf Collection of Chinese Snuff Bottles and Archers Rings, 19 Sept 2022, New York, Lot 41
                       Joan and Ted Dorf Collection, no. 310
                       Robert Kleiner, March 30, 2000

Follow-up Information:  Buddhist lions are a popular subject matter on snuff bottles.  When there are nine lions together, they represent the wish for peace and harmony through nine generations on one roof. 

Charll
 


Title: Re: Nine Fu dogs bottle
Post by: Fiveroosters aka clayandbrush on October 14, 2022, 03:06:25 am
Dear Charll,
Very nice bottle. Out of curiosity, I would say that the mark on your bottle is a good example for whom believe in the “hollow line” theory. We know that the theory is not accepted as a valid theory by scholars and experts, but in any case, if true, it would just confirm your dating.
Kind regards
Giovanni


Title: Re: Nine Fu dogs bottle
Post by: Joey on October 14, 2022, 03:50:19 am
Dear Charll,
Very nice bottle. Out of curiosity, I would say that the mark on your bottle is a good example for whom believe in the “hollow line” theory. We know that the theory is not accepted as a valid theory by scholars and experts, but in any case, if true, it would just confirm your dating.
Kind regards
Giovanni



Dear Giovanni,
What is that theory?

Dear Charll,

  A really fine example. I was going to bid on it, but
decided to buy a stone snuff bottle instead. And didn’t
get any of the bottles I’d bid on. I did ‘Upset bids’ (low
bids -I win, great; I lose, OK).
Best,
Joey


Title: Re: Nine Fu dogs bottle
Post by: Fiveroosters aka clayandbrush on October 14, 2022, 07:26:21 am
Dear Joey,
If you look at the strokes of the mark, you will see that in some of the strokes the blue is not uniform. It tends to be darker on the two outer edges of the stroke. It seems that the cobalt is more concentrated on the edges of the line, which tends to be partially “hollow” inside.
The theory say that this is typical of late 19th century/Guangxu, and got a certain fortune/acceptance, but there are no doubts that not all the items of that period are exhibiting this feature, while the same can be observed, although less commonly, on items of any period including Kangxi.
Then it must not be taken as a sure tool of dating.
Kind regards
Giovanni


Title: Re: Nine Fu dogs bottle
Post by: rpfstoneman on October 14, 2022, 10:21:59 am
Joey,

We've had a discussion of this theory here on the Forum in the past.  At present from everything I've read I'm not sure I put much stock in the idea as of yet.  Links are provided for those who wish to look into this further.

See link: https://gotheborg.com/glossary/hollowline.shtml

See link: https://snuffbottle.smfforfree.com/index.php/topic,1213.msg11542.html#msg11542

Charll


Title: Re: Nine Fu dogs bottle
Post by: Joey on October 14, 2022, 03:56:19 pm
Thank you, Charll and Giovanni.
I will look into it, when I have a moment.
Shabbat Shalom,
Joey


Title: Re: Nine Fu dogs bottle
Post by: joearp on October 14, 2022, 05:00:47 pm
I am so happy you got this beautiful jarlet bottle from the Dorf Sale at Bonhams in September.  It is very special with the nine Fu Dogs on it!  It caught my eye, but I did not bid on it.  Glad I did not now that I know you were interested! I noticed that the Dorfs purchased it from Robert Kleiner in 2000.  The only jarlet bottle we have also came from Kleiner and I feel is similar in quality to yours. It was in the 50 for 50 Book, Number 7.  Again, great bottle!  Well done! 

 I was thrilled to get Lot 53 after the sale.  This is the agate with the silhouettes of birds on rockwork on the narrow sides of the bottle.  I will be so excited when it arrives!  What really makes it special to us is that it was in the Dorf's collection.  We had the privilege of visiting their home a few years ago and seeing their beautiful collection. Like you, they were very kind to us as new collectors about 12 years ago and that is much appreciated.

Again so happy for your new acquisition!


Title: Re: Nine Fu dogs bottle
Post by: rpfstoneman on October 14, 2022, 07:24:21 pm

Jo,

Happy to hear that you got a bottle you desired from the Dorf sale.  Will have to go back to the sale and review that agate bottle.  Also, thanks for the kind words.

Charll


Title: Re: Nine Fu dogs bottle
Post by: Joey on October 15, 2022, 02:51:13 am
Dear Jo,

   Congratulations on your new treasure.
Did you contact the auction house and check
B-Is (bottles ‘bought in’{unsold})?
If so, were there many ‘B-Is’?
It’s raining here in Istanbul, but a friend from
Balikesir, near Bursa, just over 3 hours drive away,
has come over to join us for lunch.
Shabbat Shalom everyone,
Joey


Title: Re: Nine Fu dogs bottle
Post by: bambooforrest on October 15, 2022, 12:04:36 pm
Charll, congratulations on your purchase from the Dorf sale. I remember the bottle from my many visits to their home. The Dorf's were my first "mentors" in the snuff bottle world. I am showing my 9 Fu dogs bottle to match Giovanni's original post[73mm].


Title: Re: Nine Fu dogs bottle
Post by: Fiveroosters aka clayandbrush on October 15, 2022, 12:22:29 pm
Dear John,
your one is a superb example of the best iron red enamel.
Giovanni


Title: Re: Nine Fu dogs bottle
Post by: Joey on October 15, 2022, 12:40:10 pm
Dear John,

    I agree with Giovanni - a superb example of overglaze Iron red.
And the Fu dogs are so sweet.
Like Marshall and Richard’s Pekinese…
Best,
Joey


Title: Re: Nine Fu dogs bottle
Post by: joearp on October 15, 2022, 03:53:04 pm
Superb bottle John.  Great iron red color and the Fu dogs are very cute! 

  Joey I sent a message to auction house after the sale that I was interested in the bottle and proceeded from there.  According to my calculations about 30% of the bottles in the Dorf Sale were bought in.  That was just my estimate, not the auction house. Enjoy your time in Istanbul and know that we will miss you in San Francisco.  Do you know if Steven is still planning to come?  I sent him an email to the email address noted on this site for him but have not heard back from him. 


Title: Re: Nine Fu dogs bottle
Post by: Joey on October 16, 2022, 12:22:48 am
Dear Jo,

   Thank you. I will miss you and all my other friends at the convention.
But Eitanuli comes first in my priorities.
As I’m sure you understand, being a parent.
I’m not a parent, but Eitanuli is still my first priority.
Best,
Joey


Title: Re: Nine Fu dogs bottle
Post by: joearp on October 16, 2022, 06:49:01 am
Of course he is Joey.  You are blessed  to have him in your life. I will give your warm regards to friends at the Convention.


Title: Re: Nine Fu dogs bottle
Post by: Joey on October 16, 2022, 08:45:12 am
Thank you, Jo.
On both points. ;) ;D
G-D Bless,
Joey



Title: Re: Nine Fu dogs bottle
Post by: bambooforrest on December 12, 2022, 01:06:08 pm
I have pulled out some of my moulded 9 lions bottles. I believe this reticulated mould [65mm] is much more rare than the others. It has a "Golden Thread" type glaze and comes from a New Jersey auction of what I believe is a former ICSBS members collection in 2006. I bought 33 of the bottles.


Title: Re: Nine Fu dogs bottle
Post by: Joey on December 12, 2022, 02:09:02 pm
Dear John,

 Great example. But I'd simply call that a cream glaze.
Best,
Joey


Title: Re: Nine Fu dogs bottle
Post by: richy88 on December 12, 2022, 08:12:40 pm
Hi John

Nice bottle!

I have one that is almost identical to yours.

How high is this bottle? Mine is 65 mm.

Regards,


Richard


Title: Re: Nine Fu dogs bottle
Post by: Joey on December 13, 2022, 07:11:06 am
Dear Richard,

    Very similar, but John's is much more deeply undercut,
producing a clear reticulated bottle.
Yours is more thickly glazed, so the reticulation is less obvious.
I'm torn between which one I prefer.
Probably, I'd want both... ::) :o ;D

And to all my Christian friends, A Blessed Advent Season
and a Joyous Christmas.

I will be in Dubai, UAE from first candle of Hanuka [ this year on 18.December at sunset],
till the end of Hanuka, 26, December this year [our dates, 24.Kislev to 2.Tevet, stay the same;
your Solar year shifts in relation to our Lunar year {with a slight Solar correction every few years}.
Thank you, Chinese People, for your Calendar, which we Jews adopted some 1900+ years ago.].
I'm not sure if I'll be able to access The Forum from my iPAD in Dubai.
Best,
Joey


Title: Re: Nine Fu dogs bottle
Post by: bambooforrest on December 13, 2022, 07:51:41 am
Richard, I want to say that your bottle is an rare early mould and the condition is amazing. The glaze appears to be the same and mine is also 65mm. Joey, first Happy Hanuka! Second, Richard's bottle is NOT reticulated as there is no inner bottle.


Title: Re: Nine Fu dogs bottle
Post by: Joey on December 13, 2022, 12:03:48 pm
Dear John,

   
     I had one, somewhere between your's and Richard's
in glazing and in reticulation.
Though in Cinnabar red glaze.
It is #54 in my 1987 Israel Museum Catalogue.
And mine was reticulated, and I think Richard's is, as well.
There are non-reticulated examples with the foo lion dog
design, as well.
Richard, do you feel yours is reticulated, like my #54, or not?
Best,
Joey


Title: Re: Nine Fu dogs bottle
Post by: richy88 on December 15, 2022, 07:15:34 pm
Hi Joey

I agreed with John.

My bottle is not reticulated. There is no inner bottle.

For your information.

Regards.


Richard


Title: Re: Nine Fu dogs bottle
Post by: bambooforrest on December 16, 2022, 07:20:16 am
Joey, this reticulated bottle [67mm] from the Hunter Collection is more similar to yours. The heavy glaze does cover up a lot of the detail.


Title: Re: Nine Fu dogs bottle
Post by: Joey on December 16, 2022, 07:46:12 pm
John,

   You are correct. I thought that Richard's was also reticulated,
but he says not.
Best,
Joey


Title: Re: Nine Fu dogs bottle
Post by: Fiveroosters aka clayandbrush on December 18, 2022, 02:32:53 am
Dear all,
I arrived now at this discussion. I found it strange what said by Joey, that John’s bottle is more deeply carved (actually, molded) than Richard’s one. It is rather the opposite, Richard’s bottle is more deeply molded and richly detailed, and although John’s bottle too is a superb example, I prefer that of Richard, also because it has an older shape (which has been said also by John). But I would be very happy with John’s bottle😊.
Kind regards
Giovanni


Title: Re: Nine Fu dogs bottle
Post by: Joey on December 18, 2022, 10:55:26 am
Dear Giovanni,

   I was distracted by my belief that Richard’s bottle was reticulated.
You are correct of course.
It is more detailed.
Best,
Joey


Title: Re: Nine Fu dogs bottle
Post by: bambooforrest on December 20, 2022, 11:30:06 am
The next two bottles [64&65mm]appear to come from the same mould but with some differences. The bottle on the right has dirt and debris in the low spots and appears to be reticulated but it is not. From two different auctions in 2010 and 2016.


Title: Re: Nine Fu dogs bottle
Post by: bambooforrest on January 03, 2023, 11:29:25 am
These two bottles [57mm] appear to come from the same mould but there are differences, especially in photo #3. Both are fully reticulated but show no wear or use at all. From two different auctions in 2006 and 2009.


Title: Re: Nine Fu dogs bottle
Post by: Joey on January 03, 2023, 08:27:03 pm
Interesting.
Thank you for posting them, John.
Best,
Joey


Title: Re: Nine Fu dogs bottle
Post by: bambooforrest on January 10, 2023, 11:31:35 am
This example [68mm] is from a completely different mould. It still shows nice detail. From an auction in 2004.


Title: Re: Nine Fu dogs bottle
Post by: Joey on January 10, 2023, 12:05:58 pm
John,

   I prefer the previous mould, but this is also very nice.
Best,
Joey


Title: Re: Nine Fu dogs bottle
Post by: bambooforrest on January 31, 2023, 07:21:16 am
I found another 9 lions bottle [78mm]. Nice detail of the lions and good firing of the copper. From an auction in 2010.


Title: Re: Nine Fu dogs bottle
Post by: Joey on January 31, 2023, 01:48:12 pm
Another Beauty, John.
Wow!
Best,
joey