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Geoff shared this beautiful rutilated quartz crystal children playing bottle painted by Li Xiaojing 李晓静


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« on: November 28, 2019, 03:21:17 am »

Two quartz bottles I have not previously posted - I find these bottles very difficult to photograph.

The first shows ladies, a favourite subject of mine, watching butterflies and playing chess (or is it Go?)





Painted in the year 2000 by an artist Chen Ye 陈叶 (art name I guess) from the One Bottle Studio, but I can't read any more details



The second shows boys playing





Painted in 2001 by Li Xiaojing 李晓静, a student of Zhang Rucai and from the Ji School of Wang Xisan at Hengshui.



I have several other bottles by her including a favourite set, Romance of the Western Chamber, which I have posted before but can't find.
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« Reply #1 on: November 28, 2019, 04:30:07 am »

Hi Geoff,

Thanks for sharing. I suspect part of the difficulty of photographing them has to do with reflections in the globular shape.

Are both bottles rutilated, or only the second one?

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« Reply #2 on: November 28, 2019, 05:24:17 am »

Hi Tom

Both are rutilated, but it's more obvious in the second one.
You can see it best in the calligraphy close-ups.

The problem with photography is focus - the bottle shape, as you say, and the thickness.

Geoff
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« Reply #3 on: November 28, 2019, 06:30:12 am »

Hi Geoff,

In the old days of film photography I'd have used a long exposure time with the smallest aperture setting possible (for max depth of field).
But I'm not too familiar with the new "intelligent" digital cameras!

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« Reply #4 on: November 28, 2019, 09:03:34 am »

Very pretty bottles Geoff ! Thanks for sharing... What is their size? 
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« Reply #5 on: November 28, 2019, 05:09:42 pm »

Thanks Pat

They are fairly standard bottle size - 6.5cm tall including stopper by 4.5cm wide for Ladies and 6cm tall including stopper by 4.5cm wide for Boys.

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« Reply #6 on: November 29, 2019, 02:27:00 am »

Dear Geoff,

    2 very pleasing examples. Thank you for posting them.
The ladies are playing the Chinese strategy game of 'Weiqi'; which in Japan, is known as 'Go'.
Since we are discussing a Chinese snuff bottle, with a scene of Chinese people, 'Weiqi' is the way to 'Go', as it were.  Roll Eyes Shocked Wink Grin
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« Reply #7 on: November 29, 2019, 03:47:18 am »

Absolutely beautiful bottles Geoff !

You probably already know, but the second bottle by  Li Xiaojing and my favorite between the two is a rutiliated quartz.

Thank you for sharing these, both are very special !

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« Reply #8 on: November 29, 2019, 05:18:00 pm »

Thanks All

I agree with you George, the Boys bottle is my favourite also.
But what is the difference between rutilated crystal glass and rutilated quartz? Are they different or the same?

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« Reply #9 on: November 29, 2019, 07:25:48 pm »

Thanks All

I agree with you George, the Boys bottle is my favourite also.
But what is the difference between rutilated crystal glass and rutilated quartz? Are they different or the same?

Geoff

No such thing as rutiliated crystal glass...  Just in natural quartz..
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« Reply #10 on: November 30, 2019, 02:15:11 am »

Dear Geoff,

    That is why I HATE it when people use the term' crystal' for Quartz.
Quartz is an unambiguous term. It is a mineral.
'Crystal' can be lead crystal [glass with a high lead content] OR Quartz.
The English dealers are notorious for using the term 'Crystal' when they should write Quartz.

   And with the PRC production of lead crystal, it is important to correctly label the materials.

  There are two types of 'Hair Crystal' [there - I did it too! But I grew up, from 13 onward, calling the material 'Hair Crystal'], as far as I know:
Rutilated Quartz, with gold or silver coloured rutile 'hairs';
Tourmalinated Quartz, with black 'hairs'.
But George or Charll, who know their minerals much better than I,
can say if there are other types.
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Thanks All

I agree with you George, the Boys bottle is my favourite also.
But what is the difference between rutilated crystal glass and rutilated quartz? Are they different or the same?

Geoff
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« Reply #11 on: November 30, 2019, 03:37:32 am »

Dear Joey,

You omitted to mention the third type, with green actinolite hairs.

Admittedly, it is much rarer than the other two varieties. There was a spectacular example in the J and J Collection - one of my favourites.

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« Reply #12 on: November 30, 2019, 04:55:09 am »

Dear All

I am humbled - I admit ignorance.
I have changed the title name.

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« Reply #13 on: November 30, 2019, 07:09:09 am »

Dear Tom,

     I called it 'Green Rutilated Quartz'.
So is it 'Actinolited Quartz' ?

This reminds me of the Israeli Military system of calling things by their British Military names [ie English names]:
The 'back-axle' on a vehicle was called in Hebrew Slang, the "beck-ex" [Native Hebrew speakers have a problem with the soft 'A'  in 'back' and in 'axle'].
What did they call the 'front axle', you esk, I mean ask?
The "front beck-ex"! Roll Eyes Grin
Best,
Shabbat Shalom,
Joey


Dear Joey,

You omitted to mention the third type, with green actinolite hairs.

Admittedly, it is much rarer than the other two varieties. There was a spectacular example in the J and J Collection - one of my favourites.

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I have several other bottles by her including a favourite set, Romance of the Western Chamber, which I have posted before but can't find.


Here they are Geoff

https://snuffbottle.smfforfree.com/index.php/topic,1942.msg24451.html#msg24451

https://snuffbottle.smfforfree.com/index.php/topic,2019.msg25500.html#msg25500

I would be interested to learn how to see more of her works that may be for sale.
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