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Does Anyone Recognize These VMIPB Artists?

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« Reply #20 on: July 25, 2012, 10:31:53 am »

-Rick,

I like your bottle very much.

I had my eye on this bottle for a while, from one of  Suo Zhen Hai's student Zhi yuan. the price is very reasonable and painting and calligraphy is good too.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/INSIDE-PAINTED-Bird-Landscape-Snuff-Bottle-/260842718163?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3cbb7003d3



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« Reply #21 on: July 25, 2012, 11:40:33 am »

It is a nice bottle Steven!  This guy has good calligraphy skills indeed.  Not a bad price... one thing that is strange is that he/she has a lot of crap bottles and quite a few fake ones. 

Rick

Woow, 50 Suo Zhen Hai... that's impressive.  Can you share some with us when you have a chance ?

Thanks!
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« Reply #22 on: July 25, 2012, 01:30:02 pm »

Hi Pat,

As I know that he is one of Suo's best student, he might have some crap bottles when he just started it, but not sure of the fake ones, do you mean he faked other master;s pieces or somebody faked his pieces? would love to see some samples if you have.

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« Reply #23 on: July 25, 2012, 08:36:50 pm »

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We misunderstood each other (I was not clear enough obviously). I was talking about the ebay seller, not the artist!!  The bottle IS a steal at that price. Get it....
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« Reply #24 on: July 26, 2012, 04:08:26 am »

Steven,
  That looks to me like a bottle by Su Fengyi. I should know - I've got almost 40 of them! The subject of the geese, one in the air with its neck twisted so it can see the second goose on the ground, is  a copy of bottles by Wang Xisan, who adapted paintings  by Bian Weiqi (1684- 1752).
  The reverse, with 2 birds on a branch, also reminds me strongly of Su Fengyi.
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« Reply #25 on: July 26, 2012, 09:06:35 am »

Hi

This  is  really bizarre

I have    a  couple   of  bottles   which  , each on one  side , look  identical to the    pics  below

I must  do some accurate  comparisons

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« Reply #26 on: July 26, 2012, 09:35:28 am »

Thanks Joey and Peter for the comments!

-Joey, do you mean" Bian Shoumin "邊壽民 who is good at goose painting?

I guess its the original painting from Bian Shoumin.

I think the style is very close to Su Fengyi's by comparing with the pics in Peter's DB( God, love the SFY's work!!!)

BTW the script can be read  " practising Mr Suo( suo zhenhai)'s style "


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« Reply #27 on: July 26, 2012, 04:13:33 pm »

Steven,
  I'm in shock! I get to correct you in Chinese (or at least in Chinese Art!); The artist's name is Bian Weiqi (1684-1752).
His zi: Shoumin; Yigong. His hao:Jianseng; Bijian Jushi.
  Taken from the commentary on the Bapo scroll accompanying D-3 & D-5, "Worlds".
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« Reply #28 on: July 26, 2012, 04:34:36 pm »

Hi Joey,

I guess we are both right Wink, although I didn't know his real name was 边维祺( Bian weiqi).

Thanks for correcting me.

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« Reply #29 on: July 26, 2012, 08:21:31 pm »

Steven, Of course we are both right - it is your native tongue and culture! Just 'joshing' you, my friend, as I was when I wrote Pat that I was Canadian, but didn't speak French - in French! (In HELLO from Jean, a new member of the Forum from Normandy in France). Cheesy
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« Reply #30 on: October 31, 2012, 03:09:13 pm »

Peter yor remarks are very kind!!!!!!!!!!! I have just begun to explore some of the forum topics and you are correct I am bumping into many familiar snuff bottle friends!!, Many thanks!!
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« Reply #31 on: February 24, 2014, 04:58:06 am »

Wei Jian Chao is correct!!!
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« Reply #32 on: February 24, 2014, 05:15:08 am »

In 1999, the name of Three Rings Art Co was changed to Hengshui Xisan Inside Painting Art Co., Ltd.
Ai Yan (Three Rings Art Co),   stopped painting and move to HeiLongJiang Province.
An Xu Min (Xisan),                the teacher of Xisan Art school
Chau San (?)
Kang Xian Feng (Xisan)         should be Kong Xian Feng, still in Xisan.
Kong Shu Jing (Xisan)           good at peony, still in Xisan
Li Guyue (?)
Liu Qing Yue (Xisan)             left Xisan
Ren Yan Chao (Xisan)           left Xisan and stopped painting.
Shi Qing (Independent)
Shi Yiao Fang (Xisan)
Shi Yin Ying (Xisan)            should be Shi Yu Ying, painted few
Wang Li (Independent)
Wang Li Ming (Xisan)          stopped painting and opened an photo studio
Wang Li Yun (Xisan)           left Xisan a few years ago
Wang Meng Meng (Xisan)     looked after her baby this year 
Wang Ming (Independent)
Wei Jian Chao (Xisan)         still in Xisan
Wei Nan Nan (Xisan)          left Xisan  two years ago
Xu Ping (Xisan)                 painted large items mainly
Yan Qing (Independent)
Yi Ru (Independent)
Zhao Li Jun (Xisan)
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« Reply #33 on: February 24, 2014, 05:54:00 am »

Thanks Mike !

Say, did you see my email to you asking about 建辉 Jian hui

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« Reply #34 on: February 24, 2014, 06:29:05 am »

Hi Mike

Thanks for  this    excellent   information

Please     write  the  Chinese  character  names  of   all the  artists   you  list below

Please also    write the   Chinese  character name  of  Zhi Yuan (   student of   Suo Zhenhai  -    see     the  very  early  postings  in this  string  )

Many thanks  indeed   Smiley

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« Reply #35 on: February 26, 2014, 10:45:39 am »

Hi  Mike

I do  hope  you  can supply the  Chinese  characters  for the  names  of the  artists  in the  long  list below

The I can  include    this  information in my data  base

Many thanks

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« Reply #36 on: February 27, 2014, 06:29:14 am »

艾艳  Ai Yan (Three Rings Art Co),   stopped painting and move to HeiLongJiang Province.
安旭民 An Xu Min (Xisan),                the teacher of Xisan Art school
Chau San (?)
孔宪凤  Kang Xian Feng (Xisan)         should be Kong Xian Feng, still in Xisan.
孔淑静 Kong Shu Jing (Xisan)           good at peony, still in Xisan
Li Guyue (?)
刘庆月 Liu Qing Yue (Xisan)             left Xisan
任艳超 Ren Yan Chao (Xisan)           left Xisan and stopped painting.
Shi Qing (Independent)
Shi Yiao Fang (Xisan)
石玉莹 Shi Yin Ying (Xisan)            should be Shi Yu Ying, painted few
Wang Li (Independent)
王丽明  Wang Li Ming (Xisan)          stopped painting and opened an photo studio
王丽云  Wang Li Yun (Xisan)           left Xisan a few years ago
王萌萌  Wang Meng Meng (Xisan)     looked after her baby this year 
Wang Ming (Independent)
魏建朝  Wei Jian Chao (Xisan)         still in Xisan
魏楠楠  Wei Nan Nan (Xisan)          left Xisan  two years ago
许萍 Xu Ping (Xisan)                 painted large items mainly
Yan Qing (Independent)
Yi Ru (Independent)
Zhao Li Jun (Xisan)
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« Reply #37 on: February 27, 2014, 07:35:13 am »

Wow Mike... What great information !!
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« Reply #38 on: February 27, 2014, 09:45:27 am »

Hi Mike

MANY THANKS  INDEED !   Smiley

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« Reply #39 on: February 27, 2014, 10:51:49 pm »

Much appreciated Mike! Somewhere here I posted a list of artists for which I didn't have the right full name or chinese characters. I will try to find it.  Could you please take a look when you have a chance?  Thanks a million!
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