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« Reply #20 on: March 03, 2018, 02:43:06 pm »

Dear Joey,
 
Remember, I'm a cheap skate, more coins than notes.  Sad

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« Reply #21 on: August 24, 2018, 08:04:02 am »

Hi Everybody,

Here's another bottle to share.  It measures 2 7/16" w/o stopper, is signed Yan Yutian and dated 1895.

Have a great weekend,

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« Reply #22 on: August 24, 2018, 04:20:20 pm »

Beautiful Rube !

I wonder what kind of bird this is suppose to be..

Here is another of the same bird he painted, but oddly, it does not have a crest on the birds head like yours.. Maybe something as simple as the difference between a male and female ?







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« Reply #23 on: August 24, 2018, 07:51:39 pm »

George,

Thanks for responding!  I wonder what type of bird it is, too, and I think you're probably right that is a male vs. female comparison.
Nice to see another example.


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« Reply #24 on: August 25, 2018, 01:15:38 am »

Dear Rube,

     That view [of a large bird perched on an old gnarled Pine tree] usually has an Eagle.

     Please remove the spoon ASAP. It is understood that a spoon in a good to superb quality IPSB will only do 2 things:
1. possibly damage the painting, which is the bottle's raison d'etre [and most of its monetary value, as well].
2. definitely wrecks the fantasy of imagining oneself in the bottle's landscape.

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Shabbat Shalom,
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« Reply #25 on: August 25, 2018, 02:40:12 am »

Hi Rube,

That was one I was following on my watch list, congratulations.

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« Reply #26 on: August 25, 2018, 06:57:19 am »

Adrian,

As usual, I probably paid too much! Couple more to put on your radar coming up for auction in the Bonhams and Christie's sales.
https://www.bonhams.com/auctions/24821/lot/25/
https://www.christies.com/lotfinder/lot/an-inside-painted-glass-snuff-bottle-signed-yan-6156802-details.aspx
Joey,

I did remove the stopper for now, and will replace it with one that doesn't have a spoon.

Cheers,

Rube.
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« Reply #27 on: August 25, 2018, 12:48:51 pm »

Dear Rube,

     Send me the size in mm. of the diameter, and the colour you want, and I'll see if I've a stopper I can send you. Also, send me the diameter of the opening, and I can send you a cork for it.
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« Reply #28 on: August 25, 2018, 02:27:41 pm »

Joey,
Fantastic!

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« Reply #29 on: August 25, 2018, 02:53:06 pm »

Dear Rube,

     Every year at the convention's benefit auction, they auction off a lot or two of boxes of stoppers. At least twice in recent years, I've bought a lot which consists of at least 100 stoppers of all colours, materials and sizes.

     As well, at least 20 years ago in NYC's jewelry district, I found a company selling onyx spacer beads. The flat round ones make superb collars. They were closing for the day, and didn't want to deal with me, a private buyer [they usually sell wholesale]. As I was exiting, I heard the owner ask in Yiddish if they could find a 'Tzenter', the 10th man for a prayer Minyan for Mincha, the afternoon service. The response was negative. I then offered to be their tenth, so the boss could say Kaddish for his late father of blessed memory.

    After the prayer, I put on my jacket to depart. The assistant asked where I was going.
I said that they were closing, so I was leaving. He then said that the boss had said to let me have whatever I wanted, since I'd helped him honour his late father's memory.My response was that I did not want to be 'rewarded' for doing what any Jew should do [helping a fellow Jew honour his parent's memory], and I did not want to make him have to stay longer, since doubtless he'd had a long day.

    He said, in Hebrew, "Behavior begets behavior", a classic ZaHaL [IDF] statement, and asked what my ID number started with [based on the first 3 digits, most Israelis can figure out when you were inducted into the IDF],  and in which unit I'd served. 
My problem was that I did not have the cash on me to get more than a few sizes of collars.

     If I'd had the cash handy, I could have got 20 sizes from 3mm up to 30mm. Another problem was that I needed to buy 100 of each size. I would have needed about US$ 350 to get everything. I should have left him to measure out [they had special scales - he set the code and it measured out 100 of each], and run to an ATM, and got the cash.
But I felt guilty keeping him in after work, so I only have 2 sizes. But if one fits, they are really gorgeous.
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« Reply #30 on: August 26, 2018, 04:57:58 am »

Hi Rube,

I have deep pockets but short arms when it comes to parting with large sums for bottles so tend to avoid the major auction houses  Grin

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« Reply #31 on: August 28, 2018, 08:07:37 pm »

George,

Thanks for responding!  I wonder what type of bird it is, too, and I think you're probably right that is a male vs. female comparison.
Nice to see another example.


Cheers,

Rube.

This one describes this bird as a magpie, but I still can not understand why one type has a crown and another does not..


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« Reply #32 on: August 28, 2018, 08:43:49 pm »

George,

This one is is ruffled and it's called an eagle:

https://www.bonhams.com/auctions/18369/lot/172/

I don't know what to make of it!

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« Reply #33 on: August 28, 2018, 10:01:32 pm »

Where is Geoff? We need his ornithological expertise here...
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« Reply #34 on: August 28, 2018, 10:12:30 pm »

George,

This one is is ruffled and it's called an eagle:

https://www.bonhams.com/auctions/18369/lot/172/

I don't know what to make of it!

Cheers,

Rube.

I am going to go out on a limb and say that the auction house does not know what an eagle looks like... Does not look like an eagle to me..
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« Reply #35 on: October 28, 2018, 08:16:34 am »

Hi Everyone,

Joey was kind enough to fashion my YYT bottle with a more appropriate stopper, here it is:


Thanks Joey!

Cheers,

Rube.


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« Reply #36 on: October 28, 2018, 10:32:38 am »

Dear Rube,

Perfect match!

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« Reply #37 on: October 28, 2018, 05:29:41 pm »

George,

This one is is ruffled and it's called an eagle:

https://www.bonhams.com/auctions/18369/lot/172/

I don't know what to make of it!

Cheers,

Rube.

I am going to go out on a limb and say that the auction house does not know what an eagle looks like... Does not look like an eagle to me..

Only just noticed this thread.

The bird is not an eagle as George and Rube agree. I'm not yet sure what it is. I thought at first it was a falcon but now I look back in the thread, it's obviously the same bird as that appearing much earlier. That one is not a falcon, from the beak which can be seen in the earlier photos. I'll have to do a bit of research but I can't recognise it at the moment.

Geoff 

Later. The only bird this really resembles is a Rock Dove (or Domestic Pigeon when domesticated). It looks a good match, particularly the two black bars on the wing, but only from the neck down. Above the neck, I'm lost.
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« Reply #38 on: October 28, 2018, 09:47:52 pm »

Frankenbird...?  Wink
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« Reply #39 on: October 29, 2018, 11:27:39 am »

Geoff,

You know your birds!!

Thanks for trying to id it,

Rube.
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