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« on: November 25, 2017, 12:47:04 pm »

Incredible, there should be a filter on ebay to ban such crazy guys. It is legitimate to accuse him of tentative of stealing:
https://www.ebay.com/itm/2-SNUFFBOTTLE/162743800322?hash=item25e4495202:g:eokAAOSwPWRZV3zg

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« Reply #1 on: November 25, 2017, 01:41:22 pm »

Dear Giovanni,

     What do you have against a genuine viking from Sweden?
He's used to plundering and pillaging!
'ONLY' US$4,000 for two such 'treasures'? So what if he added a few zeros (like 3!).  Roll Eyes Shocked
But what idiot will buy them?
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« Reply #2 on: November 25, 2017, 05:01:55 pm »

Dear Joey,
this guy should be sued. After posting, I did a look at the other items that he is selling. Some obvious cheap fake, at crazy prices.
I am sure that if reported to ebay or sued, the verdict will be that he is simply proposing something at a certain price, so it is all matter of the buyer, nobody is forcing him to buy.
So he will be declared “clean”, while indeed he is acting as a criminal, exploiting other’s ignorance.
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« Reply #3 on: November 25, 2017, 08:07:35 pm »

Dear Giovanni,

As crazy as it sounds, I think that Swedish guy does have the right to price his goods at what ever price he wishes, so long as he hasn’t misrepresented them. Whether any sensible person would buy them and willfully fall for such a rip off is another question...

The guy is not going to have any business. He can only have a deal with insane people, not sensible people like us... Roll Eyes

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« Reply #4 on: November 26, 2017, 01:01:36 am »

Dear Samson,
 
     The seller HAS misrepresented them: By putting down  "Antique Original", under the subject "Original/Reproduction:"
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Dear Giovanni,

As crazy as it sounds, I think that Swedish guy does have the right to price his goods at what ever price he wishes, so long as he hasn’t misrepresented them. Whether any sensible person would buy them and willfully fall for such a rip off is another question...

The guy is not going to have any business. He can only have a deal with insane people, not sensible people like us... Roll Eyes

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« Reply #5 on: November 26, 2017, 01:03:58 am »

Dear Giovanni,

      I was being facetious earlier.
But seriously, you are right. I also checked his 'wares'. Yup, all crap with false descriptions and huge prices.
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« Reply #6 on: November 26, 2017, 02:16:54 am »

Dear Samson,
I don’t agree with you. First at all, in some of his listings he says, for example “Song style”, and that is correct. But in others listings he declares the piece as being Song and that is a fraud.
But I would go further. In my previous post, I originally did write a sentence that then I decide to delete before posting. The sentence was “There are some limits in Democracy”.
Meaning what I said further, that if sued, the guy would much probably be legitimate because the matter is on the buyer. That is not correct in my opinion.
There are many criminals taking advantage of the ignorance of not educated people, aged persons, and so on. Not always an ignorant should be blamed for that. In most cases, it has just been not lucky, he just had no conditions to elevate his cultural level. Or he lived in small communities where everybody relies on the others, they are not prevented against scam.
Those people should be protected, they are not causing troubles to the Community, while criminals do.
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« Reply #7 on: November 26, 2017, 04:02:16 am »

The seller HAS misrepresented them: By putting down  "Antique Original", under the subject "Original/Reproduction

Dear Joey,

Yes you’re right. I missed that... then there’s an issue.

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« Reply #8 on: November 26, 2017, 04:09:15 am »

Dear Samson,
I don’t agree with you. First at all, in some of his listings he says, for example “Song style”, and that is correct. But in others listings he declares the piece as being Song and that is a fraud.
But I would go further. In my previous post, I originally did write a sentence that then I decide to delete before posting. The sentence was “There are some limits in Democracy”.
Meaning what I said further, that if sued, the guy would much probably be legitimate because the matter is on the buyer. That is not correct in my opinion.
There are many criminals taking advantage of the ignorance of not educated people, aged persons, and so on. Not always an ignorant should be blamed for that. In most cases, it has just been not lucky, he just had no conditions to elevate his cultural level. Or he lived in small communities where everybody relies on the others, they are not prevented against scam.
Those people should be protected, they are not causing troubles to the Community, while criminals do.
Kind regards
Giovanni


Dear Giovanni,

Yes. One thing we all can certainly agree on, these people don’t do any good to collectors, especially the amateur ones, and to the community as a whole! I would have fallen into such traps when I started out two years ago!

This guy doesn’t even bother spending any effort doing so. All kinds of spams and rip-offs exist in this world. We should always be wary.

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« Reply #9 on: November 26, 2017, 07:39:45 am »

It appears that the listing has been removed. I tried to follow the link and received an error message.
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