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« on: November 21, 2017, 08:50:58 pm »

These two bottles were amongst the inexpensive items my parents bought from their neighbor's  moving / garage sale. The small monkey snuff is only 1.75" tall without the stopper and barely 2" with it, but the stopper is glued on, it appears. It is also 1.75" wide. The tall one is much larger, as you can see, over 2.5" tall, and nearly exactly 3" tall with the stopper. It is also about 3" wide. It somehow seems even larger than it is. The stopper can be removed from that one. I know nothing about them. i assume they are junk, probably from the 1980's or 1990's? They still had their tags from the garage sale on them and were $3- $5 each, so I'm not too worried about it, but will post anyway in case anyone cares to add any information. Thank you in advance for looking!


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« Reply #1 on: November 22, 2017, 05:29:46 am »

Dear Ilene,

      The monkey looks well painted, but why does he have a Menora in his paw?  Roll Eyes Shocked Grin
We can't actually see anything re.height from the photos.
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« Reply #2 on: November 22, 2017, 09:36:44 am »

 Grin Menorah in his paw. LOL. I believe that is the other paw, but it does somehow look like it has an extra bit there, almost like the mouth of a musical instrument on top of a second paw. Also, I think I may see a cockatoo hidden in the shrubbery to the right, or am I imagining? Sorry for the poor quality of the photos. I am using an iphone 5. Let me try this again and see if I can get a better picture. Sadly, the stopper appears to be epoxied on this bottle!

Thank you for being so willing to take a look.


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« Reply #3 on: November 22, 2017, 01:21:11 pm »

Dear Ilene,

     There is a Cockatiel (smaller than a Cockatoo) to the monkey's left.
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« Reply #4 on: November 22, 2017, 01:38:47 pm »

Thank you for the information. Is that an artist’s signature on the other side or a date or something else? Is this from the very modern era or a bit before, and if you know, are there clues I should have picked up on that would have told me? Thank you again in advance for any information.
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« Reply #5 on: November 22, 2017, 03:09:23 pm »

Dear Ilene,

     I can't make it out. One of the native Chinese readers will have to translate it.
I'd date the bottle to ca. post 1980 - 6 months before it got to you.
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« Reply #6 on: November 23, 2017, 04:38:52 am »

Dear Ileney,

The bottles are touristy stuff. In the case of the one with monkey, the title of the bottle is 申 ( shen ) 猴 (hou) and it means ' Monkey (猴) of the nineth position (申) in the Chinese 12-animal zodiac cycle. The artist's name is
石川, a common pen-name. The riverside of the small bottle has three Chinese character 克思丁 which is the phonetic equivalent of Christine in the West. The miniature bottle is, I believe, meant to be for ladies who practise snuffing. In this case, I believe this kind of bottle is mass produced and calligraphed on the spot by any new students of inside painting who want to earn extra income from tourists.

Though I have not come across any research paper associating miniature bottles ( of 25-30mm height range ) with female snuff  users, at the back of my mind I believe the size would be more acceptable and not so conspicuous to ancient Chinese ladies  Smiley Smiley

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« Reply #7 on: November 23, 2017, 09:15:41 am »

“More acceptable to ancient Chinese ladies.” LOL. I didn’t think these bottles were anything special, but I appreciate knowing what it says and having the other information about it.  Thank you very much.
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