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« on: October 20, 2017, 01:41:35 am »

Hi All,

I wanted to share an inside painted bottle I acquired recently. As most will know, I don't generally collect IP bottles, but this one offered by David Osborne caught my eye......

Inside painted lead crystal snuff bottle of flattened rounded rectangular shape, with cylindrical neck, flat lip, and a flat recessed base surrounded by an oval footrim; painted on each side with a landscape scene featuring a pavilion by a lake or river, set amongst trees, with mountains in the background; signed Zhen Yu 振宇, 2012.  Carnelian stopper with a black vinyl collar.

Height w/o stopper:   7.5 cm

Beijing School, Hengshui City, September 2012

Zhen Yu 振宇 is the hao or pen name of inside painting artist Pan Jiafang 潘家芳. A versatile artist of the Beijing School, Zhen Yu is perhaps better known for his series of bottles depicting scenes from 'The Journey to the West', featuring stories involving the charismatic Monkey King.   

Enjoy!

PS:If anyone can translate the inscriptions for me, I'd be grateful.


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« Reply #1 on: October 20, 2017, 02:06:27 am »

Dear Tom,

      Beautiful landscape! Congratulations.
I have 2 Zhen Yu bottles myself, and did not know that this is the hao of
Pan Jiafang. I will add that to my documentation.
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« Reply #2 on: October 20, 2017, 03:03:37 am »

Dear Joey,

If you have some of his bottles they must be more collectible than I imagined.  Smiley
Do you remember what the subject matter is on your two?

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« Reply #3 on: October 20, 2017, 03:30:02 am »

Beautiful bottle Tom, congratulations  !

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« Reply #4 on: October 20, 2017, 04:09:47 am »

Hi Tom

Based on the 3rd photo, the title reads 'Shan Qing Shui Xiu', which means Beautiful Scenery. Unfortunately, the artist signature doesn't match that of Zhen Yu. It is signed Yuan Zheng (远征) in traditional script, an artist which I have no record.

The 4th photo reads Home in the Mountains with a date that corresponds to 2012.

In this case, I wonder why the bottle was attributed to Zhen Yu?

For your reference.

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« Reply #5 on: October 20, 2017, 04:54:45 am »


In this case, I wonder why the bottle was attributed to Zhen Yu?


Hi Richard,

Many thanks for the translations.

Well, that's a surprise about the artist's name!  It was sold to me by David Osborne as being by Zhen Yu, and I'm sure he bought it thinking the same. It even came in a box with a label from the studio in Hengshui....!  See below.

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« Reply #6 on: October 20, 2017, 05:01:41 am »

Tom,

I like landscape bottles and this is a nice one!

Congrats,

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« Reply #7 on: October 20, 2017, 05:10:49 am »

Thanks George and Rube,

Now my curiosity is piqued to find out who Yuan Zheng is....! Could it be another hao for Pan Jiafang?

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« Reply #8 on: October 20, 2017, 05:17:50 am »

Hi Tom

As far as I am aware, Zhen Yu only use 2 names in his bottles: Zhen Yu or Fan Jiafang.

I can ask him who is this Yuan Zheng. Probably a case of mis-labelled bottle!

Will keep you posted.

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« Reply #9 on: October 20, 2017, 05:41:08 am »


I can ask him who is this Yuan Zheng. Probably a case of mis-labelled bottle!

Will keep you posted.


Thanks Richard!

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« Reply #10 on: October 20, 2017, 06:00:51 am »

Hi Tom

Good news!

I have contacted Zhen Yu and he confirmed that Yuan Zheng is also his pen name. He seldom uses it and only in his earlier works.

So, you got yourself a genuine and uncommon Zhen Yu's bottle. Congrats!

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« Reply #11 on: October 20, 2017, 06:22:46 am »

Thanks Richard,

Good news indeed!
That's made my day....and set me right for the long wekend ahead...!   Cheesy

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« Reply #12 on: October 20, 2017, 11:06:32 am »


Tom,

I do not understand how I missed that bottle when it was up for sale by David.  Cry    This type of landscape design is high in my wheel-house for collecting.  Nice to see it went to a good home otherwise.

Richard,

Thanks for that conformation Yuan Zheng as a pen.  Zhen Yu has been one of my favored artists and I have 5 of his bottles that I've purchased from David Osborn over the years.  Most of mine are dragon designs.

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« Reply #13 on: October 20, 2017, 05:34:21 pm »

Dear Tom,

     I mis-spoke; or my cataloguing is really a SNAFU.  Roll Eyes Shocked Grin
I actually have 5 bottles by Pan Jaifang (or is it Fan Jaifang?).
1. 2 Landscape scenes, in glass, bought in Oct.2003, via Su Fengyi, cost US$400
2. 2 'Four Wangs' style landscapes, in glass, from Dec.2004 via David Osborne
3. 2 Landscape scenes, in rutilated quartz, bought in Oct.2006, via Su Fengyi
4. 2 Landscape scenes, in glass, from 2007, bought in 2014 from Rick R. (he bought from David Osborne in 2008)
5.  2 very colourful modernist style Landscape scenes, in quartz, ca. 2004-2006, bought in 2015 from Rick R. (he bought from David Osborne in 2007). This one is a joint effort, by Zhenyu and his wife, Li Zhen.

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Shabbat Shalom,
Joey

Dear Joey,

If you have some of his bottles they must be more collectible than I imagined.  Smiley
Do you remember what the subject matter is on your two?

Best,
Tom
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« Reply #14 on: October 21, 2017, 01:21:58 am »

Hi All

David  Osborne  bought  all his  bottles  in the  early  2000s ,  so it's  quite  likely some were  signed  Yuan Zheng

David  also had very  close  contact  with Pan Jiafang / Yu Zhen  so  it's  impossible  that  he  would  have a  sold  a  bottle  by  another  artist  under the name  of  Pan  Jiafang

Anyway,  as  Richard  has  now  confirmed, Yuan Zheng  is  an  early  art  name  of  Pan Jiafang

BTW:  lovely bottle  Tom !

Cheers

Peter


PS:  Joey   - for  artist correct  names  and  art  names, both  pinyin  and  chinese  characters  - please  do use  the  data  base  I sent  you !     That's  what it's there  for  !
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« Reply #15 on: October 21, 2017, 06:00:47 am »

Dear Peter,

      My question - is it Pan Jiafang or Fan Jiafang? - is based on Richard's post yesterday, when the artist's name is rendered 'Fan Jiafang'.
Since Richard is a native Chinese speaker etc., I want to be sure.
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Shabbat Shalom,
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« Reply #16 on: October 21, 2017, 07:16:44 am »

Charll and Peter,
Thanks for your complimentary comments. Charll, if I ever decide to sell it, I'll let you know.

Dear Joey,
So you have five bottles painted by the same hand! Thanks for listing them all. Any chance of posting some pictures?

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« Reply #17 on: October 21, 2017, 07:22:20 am »

Hi Joey

I confirmed that the English name equivalent should be Pan Jiafang.

My apology for the typo.

Regards.


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Dear Peter,

      My question - is it Pan Jiafang or Fan Jiafang? - is based on Richard's post yesterday, when the artist's name is rendered 'Fan Jiafang'.
Since Richard is a native Chinese speaker etc., I want to be sure.
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« Reply #18 on: October 21, 2017, 11:42:29 am »

Dear Richard,

   No harm done. Thanks for the correction. Noted.
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« Reply #19 on: October 21, 2017, 11:44:30 am »

Dear Tom,

     I will get them photographed and posted. Probably after I return from London the first week of Nov. But possibly this week, if I can.
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