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I know we all miss out on a bottle from time to time, but...

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« on: September 06, 2017, 01:16:22 am »

I was drooling all over this one for the entire week.. Sadly I was the under bidder.. Went all in with every last free dollar I had, but fell short ...

But what a beauty and the winner really got a nice one !

http://www.ebay.com/itm/China-Exquisite-Handmade-Poetry-pattern-Glass-snuff-bottle/282630411143?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649

Steven shared with me that it is signed Erzong, but thought it a Hengshui bottle.. I must admit that being signed Erzhong raised a red flag, but put that aside as no matter who did the calligraphy was very good. Even added the splashes of gold that I can not recall exactly the reason, but something I think only an extra special calligrapher would have added.. Something to do with the way they speckled the background of parchments of calligraphy ?  I think this is Teng King Pavillion, but not sure..

Any way, just want to share a special bottle to my eye that I missed out on after a week of drooling. I can clean off the key board now  !   Cheesy


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« Reply #1 on: September 06, 2017, 03:05:05 am »

Hi George,

I did see that one come up and was watching it.

The seller seems to deal with the higher end of the modern bottles but their IP bottles do have fake signatures on work even though the work is good.

Regards, Adrian.
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« Reply #2 on: September 06, 2017, 03:13:51 am »

Hi George,

I did see that one come up and was watching it.

The seller seems to deal with the higher end of the modern bottles but their IP bottles do have fake signatures on work even though the work is good.

Regards, Adrian.

Yes, many of the sellers bottles are photo enhanced and or highlighted ( touched up ) portraits.. I think he some how stumbled onto it having no idea it was a little special..  And yes indeed, many fake signatures..
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« Reply #3 on: September 06, 2017, 03:38:09 am »

Hi George when I first started with SBs I bought a few bottles off this seller. I remember he used to say in his blurb he has a factory in China where they are made. No idea about inside painted but it does look like a nice bottle. Sorry you didn't get this one - I feel your pain as I've been there a few times as well!
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« Reply #4 on: September 06, 2017, 04:49:01 am »

George,
That is a beautiful bottle, sorry to hear it slipped away.
Cheers,
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« Reply #5 on: September 06, 2017, 09:54:43 pm »

George

This seller sometimes re-posts bottles, even though they are recorded as sold.
So keep watching.

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« Reply #6 on: September 08, 2017, 04:35:02 am »

George, I noticed this one and was quite interested but then spotted something I liked even more. So I didn't put it in my watch list. Do you know what is finally went for.

 Regards Jason.
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« Reply #7 on: September 08, 2017, 12:42:46 pm »

Do you know what is finally went for.

 Regards Jason.

355.00 US
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« Reply #8 on: September 09, 2017, 10:37:46 am »

Do you know what is finally went for.

 Regards Jason.

355.00 US

You would have been quite safe from me. I wouldn't have wanted to pay that much!   Grin

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« Reply #9 on: September 09, 2017, 12:06:59 pm »

Check the same seller again George  Grin
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« Reply #10 on: September 09, 2017, 06:58:08 pm »

Check the same seller again George  Grin

Yes, I saw that...  Wink
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« Reply #11 on: September 10, 2017, 11:51:12 am »

Another one coming up George in 6 days time, It takes the shine off a bit when they knock them out that quick! I wouldn't be very happy if I had paid that much for the other bottle. Roll Eyes Perhaps I'm being a bit unrealistic.

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« Reply #12 on: September 10, 2017, 12:32:23 pm »

Another one coming up George in 6 days time, It takes the shine off a bit when they knock them out that quick! I wouldn't be very happy if I had paid that much for the other bottle. Roll Eyes Perhaps I'm being a bit unrealistic.

Regards Jason.

It is the same one Jason..

Pretty sure I let myself get played by the seller over the weeks time it was listed last time.. But he took pushed it just a hair to far resulting in him not selling it.. Now he has to relist it..

Thanks Jason  Smiley
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« Reply #13 on: September 10, 2017, 02:29:57 pm »

FROM JOEY AT GIOVANNI'S  -


Dear George,

      I'd be leery, for two reasons:
1. the games the seller is playing.
2. the bottle is falsely signed.
Personally, both Giovanni and I are agreed that we'd steer clear of that seller.
Best,
Joey
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« Reply #14 on: September 10, 2017, 03:45:20 pm »

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Dear George,

      I'd be leery, for two reasons:
1. the games the seller is playing.
2. the bottle is falsely signed.
Personally, both Giovanni and I are agreed that we'd steer clear of that seller.
Best,
Joey

Ok, will do then...

Initially I was willing to overlook it being falsely signed.. Guess I let the calligraphy, which I thought was really nicely done for the size of bottle.. But will listen to you both, and thanks for chiming in you two ! 
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« Reply #15 on: September 10, 2017, 06:04:56 pm »

George,
I don't think it's the same bottle, look closer. For starters, look at your  calligraphy 2 pic: 7 th row from the right, 6 rows down, gold under an x shaped character, this isn't on the other bottle.
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Rube
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« Reply #16 on: September 10, 2017, 06:09:26 pm »

Yes, the calligraphy text appears to be different.

As I mentioned above, this seller has a habit of relisting bottles after they have apparently been 'sold'.
Maybe sometimes the same bottles, maybe sometimes copies.
I've seen it on a number of other bottles from them.

They also use different seller names but from the same location, Nanyang, China.
They are always Free Shipping which I find a bit surprising.

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« Reply #17 on: September 10, 2017, 07:55:06 pm »

George,
I don't think it's the same bottle, look closer. For starters, look at your  calligraphy 2 pic: 7 th row from the right, 6 rows down, gold under an x shaped character, this isn't on the other bottle.
Cheers,
Rube

Your right !  My goodness... Both are complete garbage then.. That was a close call being the under bidder on the first bottle.. So grateful did not win it..

Man.., these guys   Tongue
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« Reply #18 on: September 11, 2017, 02:35:22 am »

George, my personal opinion is, they are nice bottles, indeed the calligraphy on the second one is slightly clearer, than the first. As long as you realise they are brand spanking new, like the bottle  and you pay the right money, I think it would be worth having. The question is what is the right money for a new bottle of that style? For me it would be 40 to 50. What would the rest of you want to pay for it?

Answers on a post card please. Wink Jas
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« Reply #19 on: September 11, 2017, 02:45:51 am »

What is so perplexing is why in the world the need to falsely sign these ?  Because in fact the calligraphy is nice.. Why in the world would the artist not sign his own name.. What is the point ?
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