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From an Australian antiques shop - Cloisonne bottle

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« on: July 24, 2017, 12:37:58 pm »

Hello again,

following my posting of a double-overlay glass bottle a few days ago together with a kind suggestion by Giovanni, I'd like to post here some images of the cloisonné bottle that came from the same place in Australia. I hope you'll enjoy the images. Please let me have your thoughts and comments.
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Frank


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« Reply #1 on: July 24, 2017, 12:42:50 pm »

P.S. its size is 7.5 cm.
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« Reply #2 on: July 24, 2017, 12:43:20 pm »

Dear Frank,

    It's very nice, but I'd date it ca. 1950-1990.
Best, and welcome to the Forum,
I hope to meet you in Sept.
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« Reply #3 on: July 24, 2017, 01:06:26 pm »

It is a pretty bottle Frank, and thank you for sharing it !
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« Reply #4 on: July 24, 2017, 01:31:21 pm »

Dear Joey,

thank you for your comments and for giving me your opinion as the possible date, at least I'm happy you think of it as very nice.
I too hope I'll be able to meet you in September, and am looking forward to that.
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Frank

Dear George,

thank you for your comments, it was my pleasure to show it! I was hoping for an older date for this bottle (perhaps late 19th C/early 20th C) as it has quality and shows good patina but I guess that's not the case.
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« Reply #5 on: July 24, 2017, 02:20:08 pm »

Dear Frank,

    I'd not yet read that Giovanni feels it has age and quality. I guess in this case I'm your 'fairy' something or other  Roll Eyes Grin, since I would now date it ca. 1880-1930.
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« Reply #6 on: July 24, 2017, 02:37:30 pm »

Ha!
Dear "fairy" Joey, thanks for realizing my wish!
Now the bottle is ca. 1880-1930 and I'm very happy about it.
I really had the feeling that that was the case.
I have to thank Giovanni too of course!
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« Reply #7 on: July 24, 2017, 03:03:13 pm »

Dear Joey,
as you know I am not expert on cloisonné bottles.
What makes me positive about Frank’s bottle was the patina, the absence of artificial staining as very often seen on such bottles, the relatively simple design and, if I am not wrong, the unusual shape of the foot.
But let say that we will form a better idea about it on next September, during the Italian-Israeli meeting! Grin
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« Reply #8 on: July 24, 2017, 03:42:56 pm »

Dear Giovanni,

     I trust your eye, and all the points you made. As soon as I saw the bottle, I said to myself, "it is a simple enough design that it could well have been made during the actual SB period". And the wear I could see on the bottom, reminded me of other objects, definitely from the period I gave (ca.1880-1930) or even a bit earlier (say Tongzhi/ early Guangxu, or 1865-1880).

    But we will see in Sept.
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« Reply #9 on: July 25, 2017, 12:04:55 pm »

Dear Giovanni and Joey,

Thank you for your informative comments and for appreciating this little find of mine, you make me feel lucky to have found it, and very welcome to the forum.
I'm looking forward to our meeting in September.
Best regards and ciao!
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