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« on: December 09, 2016, 08:42:00 pm »

I am so happy I could burst! My fish bottle came today and it's even better than I ever hoped! Because I post so many trash bottles on here (really because those are the ones I have questions about) ... I thought I would post a "real" bottle for a change!
I feel like a bonafide snuff bottle collector now!
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Could someone please help me with the translation? I can't tell if it is dated or not. I think it says k'ui-ch'ou which would be 1913.



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« Reply #1 on: December 09, 2016, 10:06:45 pm »

Dear Cathy,

Big congratulations on this one! Indeed a very decent bottle by Ye the Elder!

I love fish. Fish is a lucky creature for us Chinese. It signifies fortune, like we always have left over fortune... Grin

Best, wish you plenty of fishes to come! Wink
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« Reply #2 on: December 09, 2016, 10:14:12 pm »

Thank you Samson! I feel like good fortune shined on me to be able to get this bottle so their good luck charm is already working!

Do you think it is dated? I can't figure out the first character.
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« Reply #3 on: December 09, 2016, 10:30:51 pm »

You're right Cathy. If the dating written there is honest (I don't see why not), it's Kuichou year and it's 1913.

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« Reply #4 on: December 10, 2016, 01:18:51 am »

Dear Cathy,

     Congratulations! A beautiful catch!
Shabbat Shalom,
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« Reply #5 on: December 10, 2016, 01:38:05 am »

Thanks Joey! And thanks Samson for the help with the date!
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« Reply #6 on: December 10, 2016, 03:18:28 am »

Congratulations Cathy !!

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« Reply #7 on: December 10, 2016, 05:30:08 am »

Nice bottle indeed ! Congrats Cathy !
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« Reply #8 on: December 10, 2016, 10:35:55 am »

Thanks Pat and George! George I am so curious about your beggars bottle and hope you post the solution to the mystery today!
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« Reply #9 on: December 10, 2016, 10:45:53 am »

Thanks Pat and George! George I am so curious about your beggars bottle and hope you post the solution to the mystery today!

Playing in the snow today... Might post tonight though... Thanks for asking  Smiley
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« Reply #10 on: December 11, 2016, 08:04:15 am »

Nice bottle.... congrats

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« Reply #11 on: December 11, 2016, 05:28:43 pm »

Thanks Pin!
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« Reply #12 on: December 12, 2016, 02:16:02 pm »

Nice one Cathy.

I do like his fishy bottles.

I saw one up at auction over here in the UK and wondered if this was it although my information from the auctioneers was that one was unsold.

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« Reply #13 on: December 12, 2016, 03:34:53 pm »

Adrian, which auction house? I would like to see the bottle you are talking about. thanks!
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« Reply #14 on: December 12, 2016, 04:50:14 pm »

Hi Cathy,

It was Semley Auctioneers, 12th October and was lot 428. You may be able to find it on "saleroom" site, look for auctioneers and past auctions for Semley.

My notes are a rock crystal bottle with inclusions looking almost like cracks. Rounded body with carved inset panels front and rear. Yeh Chung San (Ye Zongsan) Goldfish and Trout (?) Estimate 100-200. Unsold.

I didn't look at it in any depth at the time but very similar to yours in the actual painting subject in the fish it included but a very different bottle.

Regards, Adrian.



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« Reply #15 on: December 12, 2016, 05:10:21 pm »

Sorry Adrian, I can't find it. Looked on the saleroom and can't find where Semley had an auction on Oct. 12th.
This one "appears" to be glass. I am not certain about that, but there are no cracks. I bought it from a private owner in the UK though, so that's why I was interested in that auction record - wanted to make sure it was all above board.
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« Reply #16 on: December 13, 2016, 02:28:48 am »

Hi Cathy,

Me bad. Many apologies as it was the 12th November which should now make it easier to find.

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« Reply #17 on: March 29, 2017, 05:43:12 pm »

Especially for Samson...

I guess you were right about the fish being lucky. Another one has found it's way to me!!!

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« Reply #18 on: March 29, 2017, 06:12:56 pm »

Nice bottle.... congratulation

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« Reply #19 on: March 29, 2017, 06:59:45 pm »

Hi Cathy,

What a great bottle. I love fish and this bottle is delightful. Good for you!

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