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Bi Rongjiu Shandong Landscape Bottle

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« on: November 30, 2016, 02:29:04 pm »

Dear Members,

This is a landscape bottle I've had for several months now. It is about 3 1/2 inches tall not including the stopper. I have been told that it is a Bi Rongjiu Shandong piece from the late 19th/early 20th Century. The Bi Rongjiu pieces I have seen vary quite a bit in painting quality. Please let me know if clearer pictures are needed.

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« Reply #1 on: November 30, 2016, 04:17:40 pm »

I am confident enough to only say it is Shandong painting.. But not enough there for me to say for sure Bi Rongjiu.
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« Reply #2 on: November 30, 2016, 07:39:16 pm »

Brian

I own about a dozen or so Bi Rongjiu bottles and yes the quality varies but I don't believe this is of his hands. Maybe others can chime in. In general when he has space to paint like this example style the quality tends to be better.
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« Reply #3 on: November 30, 2016, 07:55:21 pm »

Pat, since you have so many Bi Rongjiu bottles could you please look at the one I posted here and give me your opinion? I am not very hopeful that it is Bi Rongjiu but am thinking maybe a student or son? Here's the thread:
http://snuffbottle.smfforfree.com/index.php/topic,2467.msg44643/topicseen.html#msg44643

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« Reply #4 on: November 30, 2016, 09:11:46 pm »

Thanks Pat. I see what you mean. Many of the Ronjiu bottles have crisper artwork than mine. Perhaps Steven or Joey can comment. They identified a bottle with very similar artwork as Rongjiu albeit a much smaller one. I will try to put up some clearer pictures.

http://snuffbottle.smfforfree.com/index.php/topic,2467.0.html

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« Reply #5 on: December 05, 2016, 11:05:51 am »

Dear Brian,

    It does not look to me like Bi Rongjiu's work, but possibly that is also because the photo quality is low.
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« Reply #6 on: December 06, 2016, 10:09:58 am »

Hi Joey,

Here are some better quality pictures. I believe you have already seen this bottle and thought it might be Bi Rongjiu or his studio.

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« Reply #7 on: December 06, 2016, 05:04:31 pm »

I am still only confident enough to say it is Shandong painting.. But not yet enough there for me to say for sure Bi Rongjiu.
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« Reply #8 on: December 06, 2016, 06:10:42 pm »

I will repeat that I don't think it is by Bi Rongjiu or students. My view only ..
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« Reply #9 on: December 07, 2016, 09:43:33 am »

I agree with Pat - NOT Bi Rongjiu or his direct students.
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« Reply #10 on: December 07, 2016, 11:38:32 am »

Thanks to everyone for clearing that up for me. As far as age goes, are we looking at early to mid-20th Century?

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« Reply #11 on: December 07, 2016, 07:56:56 pm »

My guess is 20s to 40s
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« Reply #12 on: December 08, 2016, 03:58:15 am »

I agree with Pat for you Brian..
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