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« on: November 07, 2016, 10:33:35 pm »

Finally have a few bottles on the way to share..

19th apple green glaze and has a chip on the lip.

Enjoy !


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« Reply #1 on: November 08, 2016, 03:24:00 am »

Dear George,

    I like the glaze, and would fix the chip with gold lacquer.
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« Reply #2 on: November 08, 2016, 11:34:05 am »

Dear George,
which is the reason for thinking that it is 19th century? I am not excluding that, may be it is, but for what I know that seal was a sort of permission for export, which means that the piece has not been made before 1949. But I must say that I have found it on pieces surely older than that.
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« Reply #3 on: November 08, 2016, 11:51:52 am »

Dear George,
which is the reason for thinking that it is 19th century?

You are probably correct about not being 19th.. It was just from memory I thought 19th, and do not have another known dated example to compare to just now..

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« Reply #4 on: November 08, 2016, 01:43:05 pm »

Dear Giovanni,

   I am sorry to disagree with you, but in 1988, on my first visit to PRC, I bought objects with that wax stamp, permitting export from the PRC, and was told that it was permitted to export antiques made after 1840 (ie, less than 150 years old). That was 28 years ago, so today, Guangxu onward would be legal, but if that was bout as early as early 1970s, when US tourism to PRC started again, or from 1950s/1960s, when Canadian and European tourism was permitted, it could theoretically be as old as 1800.

   I am not commenting on age, but on the tax stamp, but I think, from the screen views that it could be ca. 1870-1900.
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« Reply #5 on: November 08, 2016, 03:09:17 pm »

Dear Joey,
your is one more version that I heard about the meaning of that wax seal. I even heard that it was not for allowing export, but on the contrary to identify objects being imported. Anyway, I too beleive that it should not be meant for so short time back, because as I said before I saw it on pieces clearly older than 1949. It is in fact quite common on ware of the early 20th century. I also heard that it should not be taken as a sign of surely not so old pieces, because it happened that dealers did corrupt officials at Custom for having the export license on real antique pieces. I don't know if it is true, but it is not impossible I think.
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« Reply #6 on: November 08, 2016, 04:27:59 pm »

Dear Giovanni,

     Yes, I also heard that corrupt officials in the CCP could be bribed to put the 'export permitted' wax stamp on much older pieces for the right 'gift'.  Shocked Roll Eyes Grin
Who would have believed that communists could be so venal?  Shocked Roll Eyes Grin
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Dear Joey,
your is one more version that I heard about the meaning of that wax seal. I even heard that it was not for allowing export, but on the contrary to identify objects being imported. Anyway, I too beleive that it should not be meant for so short time back, because as I said before I saw it on pieces clearly older than 1949. It is in fact quite common on ware of the early 20th century. I also heard that it should not be taken as a sign of surely not so old pieces, because it happened that dealers did corrupt officials at Custom for having the export license on real antique pieces. I don't know if it is true, but it is not impossible I think.
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Giovanni
 
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