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« Reply #20 on: September 10, 2016, 01:25:05 pm »
Oh Steven! I didn't realize you were Chinese! Then you have a most definite advantage!

I'm a little surprised there's not some opposition to the theory that Liu Qiao painted the second signature YST's.
Would love to hear opposing viewpoints.
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« Reply #21 on: September 10, 2016, 03:14:39 pm »
Dear Cathy,
I understand now. Thank you very much.
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« Reply #22 on: September 10, 2016, 04:33:23 pm »
Quote from: cshapiro on September 10, 2016, 01:25:05 pm
Oh Steven! I didn't realize you were Chinese! Then you have a most definite advantage!

I'm a little surprised there's not some opposition to the theory that Liu Qiao painted the second signature YST's.
Would love to hear opposing viewpoints.

Very common for Middle Period artist to have signed another artists name.. It was done as a way to show respect for that artist or studio..
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« Reply #23 on: September 10, 2016, 06:29:52 pm »
Glad to hear it Giovanni!

Thanks George!

I have negotiated a sale with the owner of the "key" bottle and so it will soon be my first Liu Qiao bottle, although that's not quite true is it? Haha! I think the one I bought in Boston was my "first" Liu Qiao bottle.
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« Reply #24 on: September 16, 2016, 12:44:27 pm »
Noticed another Liu Qiao signed warrior scene today - up for grabs! I think it is his signature - very faded.

https://new.liveauctioneers.com/item/46872356_antique-chinese-reverse-painted-snuff-bottle-w-warrior
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« Reply #25 on: September 16, 2016, 07:03:03 pm »
Quote from: cshapiro on September 16, 2016, 12:44:27 pm
Noticed another Liu Qiao signed warrior scene today - up for grabs! I think it is his signature - very faded.

https://new.liveauctioneers.com/item/46872356_antique-chinese-reverse-painted-snuff-bottle-w-warrior





Yes, I saw that one... I won't place a value on it until after the auction.. But will share with you that the opening bid is extremely high. Also take note that these larger bottles are not so desirable..
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« Reply #26 on: September 16, 2016, 07:27:49 pm »
Yes, I thought it was awfully high too George, but since I bought that other bottle signed Liu Qiao I hope it gets the asking price! 

http://www.collectorsweekly.com/stories/204628-a-key-liu-qiao-snuff-bottle?in=user
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« Reply #27 on: September 16, 2016, 07:51:36 pm »
Quote from: cshapiro on September 16, 2016, 07:27:49 pm
but since I bought that other bottle signed Liu Qiao I hope it gets the asking price! 

http://www.collectorsweekly.com/stories/204628-a-key-liu-qiao-snuff-bottle?in=user

It won't...  Wink
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« Reply #28 on: September 17, 2016, 04:57:38 am »
Or to get more money than the artist could receive for his own work...  Roll Eyes Grin
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Quote from: cshapiro on September 10, 2016, 01:25:05 pm
Oh Steven! I didn't realize you were Chinese! Then you have a most definite advantage!

I'm a little surprised there's not some opposition to the theory that Liu Qiao painted the second signature YST's.
Would love to hear opposing viewpoints.

Very common for Middle Period artist to have signed another artists name.. It was done as a way to show respect for that artist or studio..
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« Reply #29 on: January 17, 2021, 02:27:43 pm »
Thought I might bring Cathy's topic back up with a few Liu Qiao bottles..









And one other that I think is also Liu Qiao
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« Reply #30 on: January 19, 2021, 08:34:22 am »
Dear George,

I feel like Liu Qiao is significant for us to study as an artist because he was so prolific.
I am not sure if I posted the front and back of what I call my "key" bottle but here will post it. On one side it shows the familiar "Warrior" bottles we see so much of, and on the other side it is signed and has Liu Qiao's signature ladies under a tree. He also seems to have always included in his work a very bright signature seafoam green color that you can see on the ladies clothing in your last bottle.



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« Reply #31 on: January 26, 2021, 01:54:39 am »
All these bottles are very interesting to me. thanks for sharing Smiley Smiley Smiley
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