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« Reply #20 on: August 30, 2016, 02:38:13 am »

Yes.... It's Tang Zi Chuan
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« Reply #21 on: August 30, 2016, 03:02:12 am »

Dear Cathy,

     I have only one Tang Zichuan , # C-6 in "Worlds". Mine is a superb bottle, signed Tang Zichuan, but undated.
He is a rare artist, with only 10 or so SIGNED works. How many he did, and signed ZLY or other then-masters, I don't know.

      He would have signed with masters' signatures, even though he painted in his own style, in order to sell better, or sell at all. Westerners in the late 19th/early 20th C., knew of a limited number 'master artists' in IPSBs, and wanted examples by those artists. By and large, they did NOT know the artists' styles; they bought for the signature!  Huh
Sound familiar in today's Art Market?  Grin Roll Eyes

     Does it have any provenance? It looks very nice.
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« Reply #22 on: August 30, 2016, 03:09:22 am »

Dear George and Pin,

I agree with Joey. Attached is some writings and a signature from Tang ZiChuan. Quality is there.

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« Reply #23 on: August 30, 2016, 02:29:04 pm »

Oh my goodness! I was so excited I couldn't type fast enough to buy it!! Thanks so much for your opinions. I will try to get provenance - the bottle is coming from Australia and I will post more when I get it!!

Thank you so much for helping me!

I feel quite unworthy. Promise to be much more studious to earn it!
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« Reply #24 on: August 30, 2016, 05:46:05 pm »

Congratulations YT for such a wonderful bottle, with such a great price. Wink Wink

Yes, the bottle Cathy shared is a typical Tang Zichuan style bottle. I like it.

Pat have a quite few of Tang Zichuan bottles, Maybe he can confirm.


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« Reply #25 on: August 30, 2016, 10:21:03 pm »

Undoubtedly Tang Zichuan. I have a bottle of his that's similar and also signed Zhou Le Yuan
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« Reply #26 on: August 30, 2016, 10:33:40 pm »

Thanks Pat! Is there any way you might post a picture of it? Would really like to see it!
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« Reply #27 on: August 30, 2016, 10:35:09 pm »

Sorry seem to have lost the pics and not home for a while.
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« Reply #28 on: August 31, 2016, 01:14:29 am »

Dear Steven,

Thank you. Have not been seeing you much recently.

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« Reply #29 on: August 31, 2016, 03:47:28 am »

Dear Steven,

      Thank you for your 'eye'. I trust your ability to 'read' more than my own over the screen.
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