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« Reply #20 on: July 09, 2016, 03:34:40 pm »


George,

From the photos alone it looks to be cast metal coated with a shellac or colored lacquer finish.  I see what appears to be a residual translucent coating that has chipped away.  Is what I think I'm seeing correct? If so it would chip off with a knife tip.

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« Reply #21 on: July 09, 2016, 03:57:25 pm »


George,

From the photos alone it looks to be cast metal coated with a shellac or colored lacquer finish.  I see what appears to be a residual translucent coating that has chipped away.  Is what I think I'm seeing correct? If so it would chip off with a knife tip.

Charll

The only area that has "parted" and sort of wrinkled from the casting is where you see the chip at the neck rim.  Maybe you can tell better it is a metal gilding, and not a lacquer with this pic. 

On a side note.. I wonder why they did not cast the bottle in it's entirety in one casting. Rather they added about a 1/8" top to the neck. I am guessing they had to add that some how after the first casting for the body.  You can see the seam.. I wonder what they did to attach that.


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« Reply #22 on: July 09, 2016, 11:30:45 pm »

Could this bottle be an early experiment of making a cast copy from a cinnabar lacquer bottle in metal, ahead of trying it in the more precious metals such as gold?

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Want to share that another collector just pointed out to me, and now that I look again, I think he is correct that this seems a bit "soft" or flat for a first generation ( "experimental" ) mold..
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