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Sharing an inscribed serpentine snuff bottle

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« on: April 07, 2016, 02:42:50 pm »

Dear All,

I am sharing a serpentine snuff bottle with a stylized Kui dragon and the following inscription:

秀色映水壶

Which roughly translates as "pot in which the water reflects beautyful scenery".

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Marcos






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« Reply #1 on: April 07, 2016, 10:46:25 pm »

Really nice bottle.. As usual from you ! 

The wide mouth and what could well be the original stopper..

I also like the "scrolling clouds" border..

I bet it is real nicely hollowed out too.
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« Reply #2 on: April 08, 2016, 12:45:53 pm »

Dear George,

I am happy you liked it.

The bottle is very well hollowed as well.

Thanks a lot,

Marcos

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« Reply #3 on: April 09, 2016, 05:16:20 am »

Agreed. A very nice piece !
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« Reply #4 on: April 09, 2016, 10:54:04 am »

Dear Marcos,

       I really like the bottle, except for the scratched inscription. I think that this is a medicine bottle for a wealthy person from ca. 1780 -1850, with the inscription scratched where the label would have been glued on. Having said that, it could also be a lot later in date - there are so many fakes floating around today!
Steven, what is your opinion?

       Since snuff was considered a medicine, by definition, all snuff bottles were medicine bottles. But they did not glue labels
onto them.

       Best,
Shabbat Shalom,
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« Reply #5 on: April 09, 2016, 12:58:47 pm »

Dear Joey,

I just realized your suspiction that it is a modern bottle may be right. The character for pot (hu) is written in simplified format 壶. The traditional character should be 壺.

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« Reply #6 on: April 09, 2016, 02:21:38 pm »

Dear Marcos,

      My suspicion was about the inscription, not necessarily the bottle itself. But I wanted Steven's opinion re.the bottle, because I have a problem judging over the screen, while he is amazing at it.
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Dear Joey,

I just realized your suspiction that it is a modern bottle may be right. The character for pot (hu) is written in simplified format 壶. The traditional character should be 壺.

Regards,

Marcos


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« Reply #7 on: April 10, 2016, 12:05:45 am »

Hi Marcos,

I suspect the bottle itself has some age, and that the inscription, as well as the leiwen border motif were possibly both added later.
Your comment about the use of simplified characters seems to reinforce this thought.

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« Reply #8 on: April 10, 2016, 10:23:05 am »

Thanks Joey Grin I am flattered.

I was hesitated to leave any comments since I have no much experience on the stone. Altho I do like the overall look of the bottle. The character is not that bad carved. I still agree with Joey and Tom's assumption which the leiwen border and the characters would be added on later.

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« Reply #9 on: April 10, 2016, 04:49:37 pm »

Dear Steven,

    You consistently identify beauties on the internet, and as a result get great buys.
'I calls 'em likes I sees 'em '!
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