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« on: March 27, 2016, 07:25:59 pm »

Dear All,

I would like to share a lacquer snuff bottle.

I did the acetone test so I think it is not resin. On the other hand, I couldnt see any layers under the loupe.

Could you please share your thoughts on whether you think this is a genuine carved bottle or just a modern fake?










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« Reply #1 on: March 27, 2016, 07:40:14 pm »

I like it very much and have a hunch, but will let others experienced help..

Do I see wood grain on the base of the bottle ? Where the paint has peeled ?
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« Reply #2 on: March 27, 2016, 07:45:04 pm »

Yes, I am intrigued by the wood on the base whereas on the top it is brass or copper underneath.
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« Reply #3 on: March 28, 2016, 09:43:36 am »

I forgot to add: it measures 6.8 cm without the stopper.

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« Reply #4 on: April 06, 2016, 12:26:47 pm »

Dear Marco and all,

Sorry I missed this thread.  Your bottle is made of carved lacquer even though you can't detect the multiple layers of lacquer.  On my first carved lacquer SB I had to hunt the entire bottle with my loupe to find an area that had been cut through the layers without that area being polished afterwards.  I didn't have my USB microscope back then so I couldn't photograph them, but I can remember being delighted to find the layers in the area marked with a green arrow in the following image.


* Lacquer Bottle 07.3cmH part lot 6pcs -3a1.jpg (128.49 KB, 640x636 - viewed 16 times.)
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« Reply #5 on: April 06, 2016, 12:33:14 pm »

By the way I just read you believe this is lacquer over a wooden core?

Yes, I am intrigued by the wood on the base whereas on the top it is brass or copper underneath.

I am fairly certain that it is a copper alloy core


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« Reply #6 on: April 06, 2016, 01:00:58 pm »

Dear Tom,

Thanks for taken a look at the bottle.

You are right. The base is actually copper alloy. I have just scratched it with a knife.

My USB microscope is not longer working, so it is very hard to find this layers.

Do you think it is a 19th century bottle?

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« Reply #7 on: April 06, 2016, 01:11:06 pm »

Most similar SB's that I have seen are simply described as 19th century or in some cases late Qing. 
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