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I think Suo Zhenhai. Right or not?

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« Reply #20 on: November 23, 2015, 08:16:45 am »

Dear all,
a more accurate comparison. I realize that the previous comparison was made with a picture where the bottle is in almost counterlight, so the shades was less apparent. In the comparison below the picture is taken with front light as is that of Richards' bottle. I also resized the two pictures so that the ratio between the two bottles now is correct, now we are really comparing a 78 mm bottle against a 68 mm one. I will appreciate very much your comments about the painting styles.
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« Reply #21 on: November 23, 2015, 06:58:58 pm »

Gosh, now looking at these side by side, it sure looks like painted by Suo Zhenhai.
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« Reply #22 on: November 23, 2015, 07:48:28 pm »

Yup.  I kind of agree.

I don't remember if Giovanni's bottle has a date on it or not.   The problem is that as has been said by Peter and others, by the time SZH died some of his student were able to paint exactly like him.  So if it has a date on it before 2007, it is highly likely to be his, if not then we know the answer.  If no date, then we will never know for sure.
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« Reply #23 on: November 23, 2015, 08:12:22 pm »

Agreed too.

Following this thread has been interesting especially with regards to the brush strokes and method of painting.

This could be one of the early training bottle by Suo ZhenHai. Which later evolve to using slender bottles with shoulder that is more difficult to paint.


Dear Giovanni,

Can ask the wife of Suo?

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« Reply #24 on: November 24, 2015, 02:28:41 am »

Thank you dear George, Pat and YT. It is really an interesting discussion. The bottle has no iscriptions at all, which seems highly unusual for Suo Zhenhai according to Steven.
Dear YT, who do you mean that should ask to Suo's wife, me or you? I have no way to do that, if you can and wish, then please ask, it would be really interesting, thank you.
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« Reply #25 on: November 24, 2015, 08:51:27 pm »

Dear Giovanni,

From Peter's response about Liu ShouXun, I thought he knows Suo's wife. My presumption entirely! Tongue


Dear Peter,

Didn't mean to drag you in as I remember your close dealings with the Chinese artists.

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« Reply #26 on: November 25, 2015, 11:32:46 pm »

Dear Giovanni and all,

Here is a student bottle I posted some 2 years ago. In my opinion there are several students of Suo Zhenhai who can copy his style extremely well!

http://snuffbottle.smfforfree.com/index.php/topic,1811.0.html

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« Reply #27 on: November 26, 2015, 02:00:29 am »

Thank ou dear Tom for addressing to that your bottle. Very instructive.
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