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« on: November 15, 2015, 11:59:11 pm »

I would like to share a bamboo snuff bottle and get your views as to quality, age, where it was likely made, and etc.

Height about 2.5 inches including the original stopper.

Thank you,

Curt



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« Reply #1 on: November 16, 2015, 02:05:30 am »

Hi Curt !

Here is a nice thread that will help..

http://snuffbottle.smfforfree.com/index.php/topic,2654.0.html
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« Reply #2 on: November 16, 2015, 03:50:07 am »

Dear Curt, George, all,
are we sure that this is bamboo? I don't see the typical pores of bamboo in this bottle and on the one of the other thread.
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« Reply #3 on: November 16, 2015, 09:27:09 am »


Giovanni,

I would have to have Curt's bottle in my hand to confirm for sure, but I would say it is a bamboo veneer bottle.  These show up at auction houses every so often.  With a good provenance to indicated some age they can be quite expensive.  Here are some links to other examples,  Charll

https://www.liveauctioneers.com/item/28696371_chinese-bamboo-veneer-snuff-bottle

https://www.liveauctioneers.com/item/28696369_bamboo-veneer-snuff-bottle-with-coral-lid

http://www.sothebys.com/fr/auctions/ecatalogue/2014/chinese-art-hk0525/lot.1099.html
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« Reply #4 on: November 16, 2015, 11:00:05 am »

Thank you dear Charll. All super botles!!
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« Reply #5 on: November 17, 2015, 01:16:28 am »

Thank you for your comments.  I guess we still cannot atribute an age to this bottle. 

Not sure how Sotheby's ascribed Qianlong period to the bamboo veneer bottle.
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« Reply #6 on: November 17, 2015, 02:30:24 am »

Dear Curt,
good question, I too am wondering about that.
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« Reply #7 on: November 17, 2015, 03:13:03 am »

Dear All,

    I am writing from a friend's home in Fullerton CA, and will move to the Fairmont in Santa Monica on 17.Nov.
    I don't know about the Sotheby's Bamboo Veneer snuff bottle, but I have  a  palace Workshops Qianlong period Bamboo veneer  ministure vase, probably from an altar set  from the late Robert Kleiner.
   This could be 'right'...
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« Reply #8 on: November 17, 2015, 03:13:24 am »

 

Not sure how Sotheby's ascribed Qianlong period to the bamboo veneer bottle.


An elegant bottle Curt. Thanks for sharing. I'm afraid I can't help with dating it.

But to answer your above quoted question, I imagine Sotheby's relied heavily on the Edward T. Chow provenance to ascribe it a Qianlong date.   Wink

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« Reply #9 on: November 17, 2015, 03:23:19 am »

Joey, when you have a chance, you may want to post a picture of that vase so that we can all take a look and learn.

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« Reply #10 on: November 17, 2015, 03:25:25 am »

BTW, the box in which I have stored this bottle has become yellowed or stained.  Does it mean anything?
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« Reply #11 on: November 17, 2015, 03:38:07 am »

It sounds as though whatever kind of staining or treatment was applied to the bottle is unstable and still releasing colouration. On older bottles one would expect any staining to have 'fixed' by now.
That doesn't necessary throw the age of your bottle into doubt. It merely indicates that it may have been re-finished sometime within the last few decades.

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« Reply #12 on: November 17, 2015, 11:06:25 am »

Dear Curt,

     I will definitely do that when I return to Ireland next June, where the piece is located.
Thank you for the suggestion.
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Joey, when you have a chance, you may want to post a picture of that vase so that we can all take a look and learn.

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« Reply #13 on: November 18, 2015, 02:58:36 am »

Dear Curt,

Do take a look at this Imperial Bamboo veneer belonging to a friend. It comes with a strong provenance and quality.

Cheers,
YT


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« Reply #14 on: November 18, 2015, 03:17:07 am »

Dear YT,

   I know that bottle. It is superb, and definitely Qianlong Imperial Palace Workshops Bamboo Veneer.
Thank you for posting it.
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« Reply #15 on: November 18, 2015, 08:52:22 am »

Welcome Joey.
I was just thinking of this example and decided to post it.

Cheers,
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« Reply #16 on: November 18, 2015, 12:11:41 pm »


Good Thinking, YT!    Grin
Joey



Welcome Joey.
I was just thinking of this example and decided to post it.

Cheers,
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