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« on: October 13, 2015, 03:28:49 am »

Dear Joey,

What would you think of this Laque Burgauté Metal?
Should be Japanese, just do not know how to rate it?
It has got nice colour combinations as shown in the third photo.

Cheers,
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« Reply #1 on: October 13, 2015, 06:15:17 am »

Wonderful inlays and colors !

I wonder what the gold dots are suppose to represent. Maybe fireflies ?

A beautiful bottle !


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« Reply #2 on: October 13, 2015, 06:50:35 am »

Thank you George, no idea about the gold dots but firefly is a very nice imagination Wink

I was asking Joey about this material as he knew about Laque Burgauté on metal from Charll's post. Since getting this bottle, I have been very puzzled.

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« Reply #3 on: October 13, 2015, 08:22:02 am »

Very nice.... The lotus flower and leaf are like real... Powerful Shocked
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« Reply #4 on: October 13, 2015, 11:56:33 am »

YT,

Yes, I would think this bottle is Japanese due to the shape, style of design, and use of brown lacquer.  A wonderful bottle!!!!!!   I presume the boarder wave pattern is a silver inset.   If so the gold dots could be water droplets bounce above the waves picking up the golden raise of the sun.  Is the other side of the bottle the same design?

Period?  I would speculate very late Edo to Meiji (1860-1912).

Charll

 
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« Reply #5 on: October 13, 2015, 08:35:23 pm »

Thank you Pin and Charll.

The wave pattern is pewter inlaid while overall bottle is bronze.
Attached is the other side.


Dear Joey,

Is my title wrong again? Not sure how to call this bottle.

Cheers,
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« Reply #6 on: October 13, 2015, 09:11:13 pm »

Dear YT,

     Charll is better on this type of bottle.
I was referring to Thai bottles in metal, not lac burgaute on metal.
Is there lacquer in this? If so, it should be Lac Burgaute on metal.
If there is no lacquer, it can't be 'Lac Burgaute' ( Since 'Lac' refers to lacquer).
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« Reply #7 on: October 13, 2015, 09:42:05 pm »

Dear Joey,

I am as lost now  Tongue Grin


Thank you everyone.

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« Reply #8 on: October 14, 2015, 11:56:43 am »

YT,

The following comments are just based on what I think I’m seeing in the photos.  If I were cataloging this bottle I would label it “Laque Burgaute on Metal” as Joey indicated. It appears Japanese in origin as previously indicated.  A brown lacquer bottle on a brass body with etched sea-ear, gold and silver color etched metals in a fresh water pond and floral paneled design. 
Also, the brown lacquer is etched or carved through to expose the brass body to create the ripple effect on the water.
       
In regard to other comments, the bottle body material appears to be brass rather than bronze because of the gold tone in the metal.  Bronze typically has a copper or reddish tone to it.  The silver metal I would think is a silver or nickel alloy.  Pewter tends to be pretty soft and would tarnish more readily to a darker blackish hue.   

Also, this seems to be a very high quality bottle (and likely very expensive) and I would expect it to have some 'provenance' background.

Hope this helps, Charll   
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« Reply #9 on: October 14, 2015, 01:22:09 pm »

Dear Charll,
    I'm glad I recommended that you deal with it. You  did MUCH better than I could have.
Best,

Dear YT,
  See why I said Charll was better on this? I certainly do.
Best,
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« Reply #10 on: October 14, 2015, 08:26:59 pm »

Dear Charll,

Thank you very much. The bottle's price is ok while your description is priceless. Shocked
Provenance is from a Denver collection in the 1950s passed down.(not a really good one I assume.)


Dear Joey,

Good recommendation. Didn't know you are into matchmaking experts too Tongue
Will be glad for you to look live.

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« Reply #11 on: October 14, 2015, 08:33:03 pm »

Dear  YT,

    ALL Jews are matchmakers!  Grin   Smiley Wink
I look forward to seeing it and the other beauties.
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