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Red Glass Overlay - Dragons

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« on: October 03, 2015, 10:12:03 pm »

Dear all,

Posting a single layer Red glass overlay with two different poised dragons. Wide mouth and well carved. 

Tried to join up the photos but the effect is.... Huh

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« Reply #1 on: October 03, 2015, 11:00:56 pm »

I vaguely recall reading something about overlay bottles similar to this with the wide mouths..

Will try to remember where I saw it.. But seems like there was something about these overlays with the "wide mouths" that placed them in a particular group bottles. I think it may have had something to do with actually being able to date them from within a narrow time period.

Will try to find it.. 

Nice bottle !
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« Reply #2 on: October 03, 2015, 11:56:26 pm »

Ok,

The Art Of Chinese Snuff Bottles, Hugh M., volume ll, p 382.  Pic on previous page 381 too.

"The wide mouth may suggest the earlier period, since we know a wide mouth was a feature of early production and of the Court. But we do know to what extent it was also a popular feature of non Imperial snuff bottles".

Maybe this applies, maybe not ??
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« Reply #3 on: October 03, 2015, 11:59:30 pm »

YT,

This is my type of bottle and would buy it in a heartbeat if the price was right.  Thanks for sharing this one.  I love dragon themed bottle designs and this one would be a keeper.

George, one source of wide mouth comments is "Snuff Bottle Terminology, Part I Glass-Agate-Quartz", Raymond Li, pages 35-37.

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« Reply #4 on: October 04, 2015, 01:37:00 am »

YT,

This is my type of bottle and would buy it in a heartbeat if the price was right.  Thanks for sharing this one.  I love dragon themed bottle designs and this one would be a keeper.

George, one source of wide mouth comments is "Snuff Bottle Terminology, Part I Glass-Agate-Quartz", Raymond Li, pages 35-37.

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« Reply #5 on: October 04, 2015, 02:22:16 am »

Dear Charll and George,

Thank you.
This bottle is from Joey's friend(Important NY collector) and I was real lucky being the only bidder.
Date stated was 1780-1850

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« Reply #6 on: October 04, 2015, 07:37:37 am »

Nice find YT. Really like it..
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« Reply #7 on: October 04, 2015, 08:10:34 am »

Dear YT,
nice bottle! The joined picture too is looking good. I like these wide opening surrounded by thin glass. Very nice!
Thank you for showing it.
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« Reply #8 on: October 04, 2015, 09:00:39 am »

Dear Pat and Giovanni,

Thank you.
I didn't think the joint picture will work due to the bottle shape. Think the red overlay was just too busy, and we can imagine how it flows.

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« Reply #9 on: October 04, 2015, 09:31:36 am »

Very nice overlay .... Remind me of my bat bottle...  Grin
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« Reply #10 on: October 04, 2015, 10:58:58 am »

Dear YT,

     The wide mouth is identical to the milk and orange plain glass bottle, #7 in my 1987 catalogue, which is ex.Bob Stevens and was in his Mikimoto catalogue and exhibition (#19), and is ex.Rick R. from our Forum. 
 
     The bottles seem to be from the last half of the 18th C.

    Best,
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« Reply #11 on: October 05, 2015, 02:28:54 am »

Thank you Pin.


Dear Joey,

Not really interested in the association with the 'ACT' but very happy with your suggested dating.
Thank you.

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« Reply #12 on: October 05, 2015, 03:36:29 am »

Dear YT,

    Sorry about that. I've deleted the reference.
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Dear Joey,

Not really interested in the association with the 'ACT' but very happy with your suggested dating.
Thank you.

Cheers,
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