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« on: August 13, 2015, 01:23:23 am »
Hi All :

Sharing a glass bottle......... any comments are greatly appreciated









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五花馬，千金裘。呼兒將出換美酒，與爾同銷萬古愁。

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« Reply #1 on: August 13, 2015, 06:23:21 am »
Dear Pin,

    It looks very good to me, but I'm notorious for not being able to judge over the internet.
And I don't want to share information on details which I like, so as not to share them with those who fake bottles.
I will write you privately.
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« Reply #2 on: August 13, 2015, 06:40:50 am »
Dear Pin,

It looks good to me too. Although I have had disastrous experiences with 'camphor' glass, so would be extremely wary of it.

Tom
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« Reply #3 on: August 13, 2015, 07:08:02 am »
Dear Tom,

    I can understand your wariness re.MODERN overlays on camphor; but if this is indeed pre-1850, and I think it is ca. 1750-1800, there should be no problem. I had never seen damage like that on your modern overlay SBs, EVER before you showed them to me in your home. I hope never to see such damage ever again.

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Joey
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« Reply #4 on: August 13, 2015, 11:32:33 am »
Gosh, I have much to learn about these... Because the camphor looks wrong to me..  Yet I really like the shape of the base bottle..  The quality of the carved overlay does not look so hot to me either..  Guess I have much to learn.. Just would have expected better quality from a suspected 1750-1800 candidate..

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« Reply #5 on: August 14, 2015, 04:11:47 am »
Dear Pin,

Very happy you got it.


Dear Tom,

This was one bottle that I handled and wanted during the Bloch sale. I had to give up as the crizzling was quite bad and I remembered your warning.
http://www.sothebys.com/en/auctions/ecatalogue/2015/snuff-bottles-from-mary-george-bloch-collection-part-x-hk0576/lot.174.html

Yet it went for such high price at the end.

Pin's bottle looks good and should last for a long time.

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« Reply #6 on: August 14, 2015, 04:52:32 am »
Dear YT,

Yes, the crizzling does look quite extensive, but I assume it happened over a periopd of two hundred years, so is perhaps reasonably stable now.

What a provenance and exhibition show-list! That explains the hgh hammer price.

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« Reply #7 on: August 14, 2015, 06:16:26 am »
Dear Tom,

It will be a great risk if the buyer is from a country that has a big atmospheric difference from Hong Kong.
Also, it will be difficult to sell in the future.

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« Reply #8 on: August 14, 2015, 09:26:01 am »
Dear Tom,
   
   I've removed my post.
Joey


Quote from: Wattana on August 13, 2015, 10:09:58 pm
Quote from: Joey on August 13, 2015, 06:59:43 am
Dear Tom,

   You would, or would not "be extremely wary"?  Huh

Best,
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Oops - a typo. It's now been corrected.
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« Reply #9 on: August 16, 2015, 09:44:50 pm »
Dear Joey,

Likewise......   Wink

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