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Names of unidentified IPB painters NOT yet found in Peter's DB

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« Reply #20 on: August 27, 2011, 10:24:13 pm »

Hi  Pat,

Seems  we  have   some  concensus  on   numbers  of  artists

I reckon that, although   a  good   VM   artist   in  his  mid -late   30's  can paint a  good  bottle  in one week working non-stop,   his  actual  productivity is  only 2  bottles/ month  because  of  planning a  bottle,  family  matters  etc.    If  he  can get  RMB 4 - 5K   net  per bottle, which  I think is the  going  rate  that  makes  RMB8-10K / month ( I assume  tax free)  which  is a pretty   good salary   in Hengshui. That  translates to   at least  double that  in  terms  of   salary vs  cost of living in the  big cities  ( maybe  almost treble before  tax) , which  puts  him  on a par   with  our   top sales  staff  in China   who bring in  USD 2 - 4 Million / month  sales

RMB4-5K  net/ bottle  means   final sale  price  in  the  USD1K range  via a   dealer

All this  is at  current  prices , of course.   It seems  a few  years  ago   the   artist's   expectation  per  "good" bottle  was  much lower

Re  collecting  :  I think you  have a moot  point .   I guess  100  years   ago  IPBs   were   exclusively the playground  of  Chinese  collectors. But  inevitably    eventually they  become  international collectors'  items  ( even  so, many of the "great"    Early and Middle   school  collections  are  in the  hands of  Chinese  collectors )

Now  for the   Modern  school  :   again  it's the  Chinese  collectors  who   have lead the   field  :  J.H. Leung,   the   S'Pore  Nanyang  group, and  other  collectors  in Spore like  Yeo,  Richard  etc  . And   probably a  handful of   discrete , rich  Chinese   collectors    who have  not  published their    collections  yet.   Even  you  and  I  have   strong  Chinese  connections !  It  seems   Bill  is the   "exception that proves the   rule" ( if I may   say that  in the   nicest possible  way   Smiley   )

The   VM school  may  turn  out to   have a  wider  audience   worldwide because  of  dealers  like  Jill.  But  - as I mentioned  before  -  I  recently heard that   80% of  all  good  VM bottles   are now   sold  within China

So where   does  that  leave   the   future  of  this  art-form  ?    BIG  QUESTION !

Cheers   Peter

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