Message #50735

[Joey Silver / Si Zhouyi 義周司]

Dear Adrian,

      After reading your comment below, I went back to look at the three, and I must admit, all DO have a very Chinese feel to them, albeit incorporating this iconic Japanese detail.
But isn't discussing these details part of what makes collecting the bottles so much fun?!
Best,
Joey

Dear Joey and Tom B,

What I was intending to suggest was a pure Japanese style not being used by the Chinese as opposed to the adoption of some Japanese elements into a Chinese style.

The 3 examples in "Dragon" have a Chinese sense to them in having formalised borders, background diaper and Chinese emblems used as well as drawing on Mon type emblems. I love 102 as it's so unusual.

The Maki-e panel is on a bottle with a very Chinese style to the formalised borders.

However seeing that the Chinese were happier to incorporate Japanese elements makes things more complicated as I would have otherwise felt that any Japanese elements mixed with a Chinese style were more likely Japanese produced.

I might have to start collecting modern items where "Made in China" marks make it far less complicated 

Regards, Adrian.