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« Reply #20 on: November 19, 2014, 03:48:59 pm »

David,

Thanks for bring this Bloch bottle to our attention.  Since it was so squatty in form I did not give it much attention to read the description about having a concentric ring base. 

Here is the link for those who are interested: http://www.e-yaji.com/auction/photo.php?photo=2031&exhibition=14&ee_lang=eng&u=248,85

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« Reply #21 on: November 19, 2014, 05:19:31 pm »

That is interesting... I have never seen a "squatty" bottle with concentric ring base before..

Thank you for sharing it !
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« Reply #22 on: November 19, 2014, 05:56:27 pm »

I think I have one or two with Human figure subject in my collection in Ireland.
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« Reply #23 on: November 19, 2014, 10:36:06 pm »

Hi Charll,

You're welcome.

I was checking those small blue porcelain ones compared to the ones form the Stone Picking Studio Catalogue 1995 Sotheby's against my mini-vase/possible bottles. And thought the forum might be interested.

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« Reply #24 on: October 06, 2015, 08:26:45 pm »

Have my eye on a bottle..

But not sure what to make of the swirled rather than concentric design..



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« Reply #25 on: October 06, 2015, 08:56:37 pm »


George,

This is a swirl base design and not a concentric ring base as indicated.  I've seen a few of these swirl base bottles and in all cases I observed they have been later bottles.  What's later?  Twentieth (20th) century.  The photo is a bit blurry to get a good handle on the quality of the bottle posted.  Sorry I can't add more.

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« Reply #26 on: October 06, 2015, 10:43:33 pm »

Yes, I did mention being swirl and not concentric..

Big help Charll.. Although the picture is blurry, from what I can see, the quality of paining is poor and would best match a 20th bottle.

Thank you !
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« Reply #27 on: September 24, 2017, 01:23:22 pm »

All,

Was doing some snuff bottle cataloging this morning on a new acquisition from the recent Christie's snuff bottle auction, "The Ruth and Carl Barron Collection of Fine Chinese Snuff Bottles: Part V, 13 September 2017, New York."  I did manage to pick up one bottle, so I thought I would share it as I was doing the documentation work. 

SOFT PASTE BLUE AND WHITE PORCELAIN PILLAR SNUFF BOTTLE WITH CONCENTRIC RING BASE:
The bottle is decorated beneath the lightly crackled glaze with two warriors from the novel Water Margin, Mu Chun and Zou Yuan, each identified by an inscription. The base unglazed with 13 concentric rings that is slightly dimpled in to the center of the base.
3 in. (8.3 cm.) high, quartz stopper.
 
Period:  Jingdezhen Kilns, 1820-1880

Provenance:   Elisabeth and Ladislas Kardos, Vancouver, Canada.
                       Robert Hall, London, 1995.
                       Ruth and Carl Barron Collection, Belmont, Massachusetts, no. 1932.

Exhibited: Boston, International Chinese Snuff Bottle Society Convention, The Barron Collection, 23-26 September 2008.

The bottle is on its way (i.e., being shipped) and the pictures are courtesy of Christie's.

Charll



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« Reply #28 on: September 24, 2017, 02:23:39 pm »

Dear Charll,

Thanks for sharing such a wonderful bottle, very solid provenance, beautiful pieces.

Very nice find, and addition to your collection.

Cheers,

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« Reply #29 on: September 24, 2017, 02:25:58 pm »

So beautiful Charll !  Another wonderful addition to your already very nice collection of porcelain bottles !
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« Reply #30 on: September 24, 2017, 02:42:33 pm »

Dear Charll,

     Congratulations! Another beauty, and, as Steven pointed out, a great provenance.

     By the way, you might have met Charles Kux-Kardos of Vancouver at the last few conventions; certainly at Portland, which he attended with his wife Heidy and their daughter Scarlet. He is a nephew of Ladislas Kardos.

     Ladislas and Elizabeth Kardos were good friends and very kind people, who were very patient with me ['nuff said!  Roll Eyes Grin].

     Best,
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« Reply #31 on: September 24, 2017, 03:52:13 pm »

Dear Charll,
congratulations. For some strange reason or coincidence, I have never found a bottle of this type, I mean a pillar bottle with concentric rings on the base.
Kind regards
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« Reply #32 on: September 24, 2017, 04:24:51 pm »

I am thrilled you got this bottle Charll!  I am sure Heidi and Charles will also be delighted.   We had a nice dinner with them and their charming daughter Scarlet in LA.  Again so happy you got this wonderful bottle.  All the best!  Jo and David
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« Reply #33 on: September 27, 2017, 09:20:58 am »

I thought you might enjoy seeing this small blue and white bottle with concentric rings!  It is porcelain, flower design unusually small size 1.5" or 38.1 mm.  It has concentric rings on the base and ming style classic scroll of lotus flowers enclosed by a leafy stem.  I believe it to be Imperial.  Any comments or additional ideas on the dating are welcome. 


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« Reply #34 on: September 27, 2017, 02:59:36 pm »

Charll, thank you so much for showing that very interesting aspect of your collection. You have improved my knowledge.

Many thanks Jason.
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« Reply #35 on: September 27, 2017, 04:31:23 pm »

I thought you might enjoy seeing this small blue and white bottle with concentric rings!  It is porcelain, flower design unusually small size 1.5" or 38.1 mm.  It has concentric rings on the base and ming style classic scroll of lotus flowers enclosed by a leafy stem.  I believe it to be Imperial.  Any comments or additional ideas on the dating are welcome. 

Wonderful bottle Jo !  I am not the best with these, but agree yours Imperial...
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