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Can someone confirm this Zhang Tieshan painted

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« Reply #20 on: September 07, 2014, 10:46:41 am »

Hi Steven

I  agree   with you, based  on the  painting   style  and  ( relatively  good)  calligraphy

It's the   "old"   shape  of the bottle  that  puzzles  me

GEORGE :  is the bottle    quartz  or  glass?

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« Reply #21 on: September 07, 2014, 07:26:50 pm »



And,  I must  very  frankly  say  - that  IMHO  it's  only  an  average -painted   Shang  Dynasty  bronze.
 Not  by    any way a  major  artist





I wonder if the artist signed off as Master of the Fine Craft Studio meaning to imply himself as a Master artist ?

I do also agree with you Peter that the quality does not appear as detailed as other bronze examples..

Steven,

It could well be as recent as 10 years..

I do like the shape of the bottle, and very much like the painted bronze vessels, as well I think the calligraphy is nice..

No regrets at all as far as purchasing it..
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« Reply #22 on: September 07, 2014, 10:00:58 pm »

Hi George,

I think it might a little bit confused you by translating 精艺轩主人 to "the Master of the Fine Craft Studio". If I translate it to " the owner of the Fine craft Studio" you might understand it better. The studio would be small like one person studio, it really doesn't mean anything, that is why I didn't bring it up at first place.

I did search the studio name at beginning, nothing came up as well, I assume its a very small studio.

As far as the painting quality, IMO, its high quality painting, maybe not the master lever, but I don't think its far away, the painting style is just like that, it doesn't pursue the highly detail painting, but the strokes are fluent, and with fine pattern( very short strokes) which is also kind of like Zhen Yu's style. To me, its not the more detail painted more impressive, sometimes, the less is more. I like the overall feeling of the painting which matches the calligraphy style as well.

You should not regret about it, it well worth the price you paid IMO.

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« Reply #23 on: September 07, 2014, 10:10:08 pm »

Steven

I agree that it is way better than average for sure.  Sometimes these bottles are dismissed too easily.  it only goes to show that there are probably hundreds of painters that we will never hear of or from.  This was not an easy trade to excel in AND make money from between the 70s and say 2000, so a lot of people must have just given up and found other ways to feed their families.  If you can't dig these up in Chinese as our resident forum PI, the rest of us don't stand a chance!  Grin Wink

BTW. I have a few of these types of bottles from mid 90s to 2000, one by Meng Dehao too. They will show up over time here...
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« Reply #24 on: September 08, 2014, 06:30:12 am »

Thanks guys..

Steven,

I did find something online yesterday that included a snippet regarding what you just said about the "owner".. Also remember a comment about small studios..

I just sort of stumbled on to it, and can not find it again, but there was something said about this..

Will keep trying to find it, and share it if I can remember which key words via Google got me there..

Thank you for clearing that up..  Smiley
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« Reply #25 on: September 08, 2014, 10:14:55 pm »

This is nice work George.  Well worth what you paid for it and more... 
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« Reply #26 on: September 09, 2014, 09:38:02 am »

Thanks for sharing George,

I like it even more.Smiley
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« Reply #27 on: August 06, 2017, 02:43:58 am »

Just adding this link here to reference..
http://snuffbottle.smfforfree.com/index.php/topic,3620.msg49362.html#msg49362
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