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Help with dating these porcelain bottles please

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« on: August 20, 2014, 09:03:12 pm »
Hi all,  I am attaching pictures on two porcelain bottles.  Could you help with dating them please?

thank you,

Curt

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* porcelain 1.JPG (279.37 KB, 1224x1632 - viewed 51 times.)

* porcelain 2.JPG (284.43 KB, 1224x1632 - viewed 33 times.)

* porcelain 3.JPG (254.8 KB, 1224x1632 - viewed 35 times.)
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« Reply #1 on: August 20, 2014, 10:36:00 pm »
Hi Curt,

I see two sides of one bottle, not two bottles. Unless the other side of each is undecorated.
From the painting style I would guess this bottle to be from the Tongzhi or Guangxu period. 

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« Reply #2 on: August 21, 2014, 01:29:12 am »
Yes Tom, these are the two sides of the same bottle.  Thank you.

Here is the other bottle, unmarked.


Cheers,

Curt

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« Reply #3 on: August 21, 2014, 01:40:04 am »
Will let others comment to the dating, but just want to say both bottles are real nice Curt !
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« Reply #4 on: August 21, 2014, 01:54:30 am »
Dear Curt,
all. Tom is right about the dating of the first bottle, to be more precise, it is surely Tongzhi. It can be dated so accurately thanks to the style of painting, especially regarding the faces of the person. There is an interesting book on this topic that we have already mentioned here. That type of faces do appear at the end of Daoguang period and last until the beginning of Guangxu period, but the very top is under Tongzhi and those on your bottle are very typical of that. Nice bottle.
As for the second bottle, the only image provided doesn't help so much but because of that pink and the enamels in general I think it is Guangxu.
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« Reply #5 on: August 21, 2014, 02:11:51 am »
The book Giovanni is referring to is:

Dating Chinese Porcelain from Facial Features and Adornments. by Tommy Ekloef.  Published Karlstad, 2013.

I cannot find the post where it was discussed. I will be picking up the copy I ordered when I get to London next month!

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« Reply #6 on: August 21, 2014, 02:22:16 am »
Quote from: Wattana on August 21, 2014, 02:11:51 am
The book Giovanni is referring to is:

Dating Chinese Porcelain from Facial Features and Adornments. by Tommy Ekloef.  Published Karlstad, 2013.

I cannot find the post where it was discussed. I will be picking up the copy I ordered when I get to London next month!

Tom

I really have to move this book to the top of my wish list.. !
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« Reply #7 on: August 21, 2014, 03:34:38 am »
Thank you guys!!
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