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« on: July 22, 2014, 06:49:03 am »

This bottle was for sale just yesterday.  The seller doesn't say it is inside painting but that's what I thought it looked like.  He called it "vintage" but is there a way to tell if it does have any age to it?  To my untrained eye it looks rather nice.

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« Reply #1 on: July 22, 2014, 07:11:17 am »

The processed used to make these includes photo etching or enhancing the basic dark outlines within the bottle.. Then someone sort of just fills in with color.. Much like if you imagine a children's coloring book..

Modern, and considered a tourist type bottle..

Been looking at the bottles you have been interested in, and the last yellow one that you did purchased...

May I ask what are your hopes and desires as you build up a collection Brad ?
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« Reply #2 on: July 22, 2014, 03:11:31 pm »

Hi George,

What I'd ultimately like to do is obtain a handful of pretty nice bottles, not necessarily extremely valuable ones but nice examples of some of the different types.  My first interest was in a red lacquer (cinnabar) bottle.  I've always liked Oriental art and have many other items dating from around the 1920s, so it seemed like I should have some snuff bottles from around the same period.

I know I have a lot to learn.  There are literally hundreds of snuff bottles for sale on eBay, and probably just as many in other places.  Back when I bought the fake cinnabar bottle, in 1999, there were just as many.   I'd also venture to say that there are many more collectors of snuff bottles than of other things I already collect.  I've been a collector of bells for a long time now and have managed to get many really choice ones for fairly cheap, and I imagine that is because there are not that many people who collect bells in comparison to other collectibles, and the sellers are not aware of what they have.  There are bell books, but most of them were independently published and the average eBay seller is probably not familiar with them.  Judging by this forum alone, it seems there are many, many snuff bottle collectors all over the world, so probably much more information is widely known about them by dealers in art and antiques.

I probably should refrain from buying until I've acquired more knowledge.  Is eBay a good place to be looking?  With so many bottles for sale, how can I tell just by looking at pictures online if a particular bottle is worthwhile?  What should I expect to pay for a good bottle dating from 1900-1940?  For example, a red lacquer or glass overlay?  I've  noticed that most of the listings don't say anything about age, other than terms like "vintage" or "antique."   Some are not sure what the bottles are made of as well.

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« Reply #3 on: July 22, 2014, 03:21:37 pm »

In reply Brad... Easier to post this response within another topic..

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« Reply #4 on: July 22, 2014, 09:52:31 pm »


 I'd also venture to say that there are many more collectors of snuff bottles than of other things I already collect.  I've been a collector of bells for a long time now and have managed to get many really choice ones for fairly cheap, and I imagine that is because there are not that many people who collect bells in comparison to other collectibles, and the sellers are not aware of what they have.  There are bell books, but most of them were independently published and the average eBay seller is probably not familiar with them.  Judging by this forum alone, it seems there are many, many snuff bottle collectors all over the world, so probably much more information is widely known about them by dealers in art and antiques.


Hi Brad,

Unfortunately, you are correct. When I began collecting snuff bottles in the 1970s the situation was very much like you describe for bells: Few collectors, hardly any books on the subject, and most people didn't know what the bottles were used for - often describing them as 'scent bottles'.

Those were the golden days!

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