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December 18, 2017, 08:53:34 am
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Cloisonne Bottle from Hong Kong

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« on: June 24, 2013, 06:52:38 am »

Here's a cloisonne bottle that was bought in the mid 1960's from Yee Wo's shop in Hong Kong. Can anyone tell me anything about it, e.g. how old it is and who the maker might be? Thanks!
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« Reply #1 on: June 24, 2013, 12:23:34 pm »

Vaughan,

This is a good quality cloisonne bottle and is very collectable.  As to age, it was likely produced within a few years of your purchase.  In addition to myself, I've noticed that some very fine cloisonne bottles have been produce in the last half of the 20th century.

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« Reply #2 on: June 24, 2013, 02:09:37 pm »

Thanks Charll for your input.Smiley

I just can't put my finger on it, its very hard to ID those good qualtiy cloisonne bottles, I would say the qualtiy is good enough to compare those geniune bottles from Qianlong period, especially the carved mark looks really good.

BTW, how tall the bottle its? my impression is the real qianlong period bottles are smaller than later 20th copies, most of geniune pieces I have seen from Qianlong are 6-7cm, but copies are 8-9 cm , that should not be a rule to ID a bottle, but its good to know the side, btw, when I first got into the cloisonne collections, I was told the dots or bubbles( tiny holes) on enamel is a sign for old enamel, until early 20th, the craftman start to make the cloisonne without the bubbles and dots on enamel, before that, the technique is not ready to do that, but certainly it can be fake with those dots later on..

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« Reply #3 on: June 25, 2013, 05:52:08 am »

Thanks Charll, Steven for your comments, much appreciated as ever. Steven, the bottle is 58mm high, 42mm wide, 22mm deep.
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« Reply #4 on: July 01, 2013, 10:45:21 pm »

Dear Vaughan,

i will share over the next few posts a few Cloissone bottles in my collection.

Inn Bok
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« Reply #5 on: July 01, 2013, 10:51:58 pm »

Vaughn,
    I agree with Steven and Charll, that your bottle is most probably mid-20th C. or a bit later.
But that incised mark DOES look really good.
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