Crazy ebay, again

[Fiveroosters aka clayandbrush]

Dear all,
a member on Gotheborg did post the case of the two following items, thinking that it was the same item sold by two different sellers.
Instead, the two bottles are similar but not the same. What is scandalous is the price fetched by one of them. In my opinion it must be a further case of shill bidding. Hided bidder's identity, a lot of bid starting immediately at the beginning of the sale, etc. This fact of guys out there exploiting illegally the ignorance of others is really irritating me.
The items:
261213857757
http://www.ebay.it/itm/261213857757;jsessionid=5BAA9C19748CC2A03E5C364D3CAF8737?ru=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.ebay.it%2Fsch%2Fi.html%3F_from%3DR40%26_sacat%3D0%26_nkw%3D261213857757%26_rdc%3D1

290914766431
http://www.ebay.it/itm/290914766431?ru=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.ebay.it%2Fsch%2Fi.html%3F_from%3DR40%26_nkw%3D290914766431%26_rdc%3D1

By the way I did look at some of the porcelain items on sale by both selelrs and they are not good. Probably the same selelr with two identities.
Giovanni

[Joey Silver / Si Zhouyi 義周司]

Dear Giovanni,
    Both bottles are extremely overpriced!
Shabbat Shalom,
     Joey

[Steven]

Dear Giovanni,

Great detective work!!

Those items are definitely sold by the same guys with different accounts, the way  the seller taking picture are same, they just adjusted the hue a little bit on different accounts, the items sold are pretty much same, the high end fake items, the first one could be bought back by the seller, then set up a high standard reference in order to sell the second one, so the second one was sold way above its value, that is how they sell stuff....

That is why that I never bid anything from the seller who hide the bidders' Identity...


Steven

[George]

Good eye, and yes... Shill bidding for sure...

[Steven]

Here is another one .

http://www.ebay.com/itm/200922316358

But that is quite obvious, since one bidder bid it more than 30 times, how would someone so eager to get a fake bottle.

 The only thing I don't know how can the seller got so many watches? it has 61 people are watching it now, its almost impossible.

[Joey Silver / Si Zhouyi 義周司]

Wow, Giovanni and Steven,
   You really catch these crooks out!
Thank you for keeping watch for us.
Shabbat Shalom,
Joey

[Fiveroosters aka clayandbrush]

Dear Steven,
how do you know how many people are watching it? For what I know only the seller can see that. Is there a possibility for seeing it?
Giovanni

[Steven]

Dear Giovanni,

You are right, normally only the seller can see the watching numbers, but some hot items can be viewed on this website.

http://www.collectorsweekly.com/bottles/snuff/auctions?sort=most-watched

And you can watch how hot its.

Steven

[Fiveroosters aka clayandbrush]

Thanks dear Steven for the link.
Giovanni

[guest226]

I buyed from both usersnames in the past and is the same person,a girl from New York she have another 2 accounts. anafromnj and  the other one I don't remember.So she have 4 accounts!!
Take care whit this girl she have only fake items!!

[Joey Silver / Si Zhouyi 義周司]

Thank you for the warning.
Joey