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« Reply #20 on: July 05, 2013, 04:45:34 pm »
Quote from: Wattana on July 05, 2013, 04:01:05 am
Joey,

I would put it at second half of 20th century, probably post-1960. Any thoughts?

I'm with you Tom...
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« Reply #21 on: July 08, 2013, 04:53:59 am »
Here is an old turquoise snuff bottle for comparison / reference, dated to 1760-1860.

It is of flattened spade form with short slightly flared neck and flat lip, tapering to a small, very narrow flat foot. I suspect the lip has been filed down slightly to remove some chipping or similar damage. The material has an even patina of green colour with a few areas of dark veining, and is silky smooth to the touch. This bottle is not to be confused with Imperial turquoise bottles, which are generally much bluer and paler in colour, either due to lack of handling, or (more likely) because the material was sourced from a different locality. This bottle has a coral stopper set in an incised bronze collar. Height without stopper:  5.8 cm

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« Reply #22 on: July 08, 2013, 06:31:27 am »
Dera Tom,
I like this bottle very much. Nice one!
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« Reply #23 on: July 08, 2013, 06:37:02 am »
Thank you dear Giovanni.
I bought this one about 10 years ago, from a well-known collector.

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« Reply #24 on: July 08, 2013, 09:53:36 am »
Tom, it is a lovely bottle, especially the slender side
View !
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« Reply #25 on: July 08, 2013, 01:19:12 pm »
Wow Tom.. Absolutely beautiful !
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« Reply #26 on: July 09, 2013, 12:35:00 am »
Inn Bok and George,

Thanks for your feedback. It is well worn and a little battered, but slips into a pocket comfortably, and a delight to handle!
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« Reply #27 on: July 09, 2013, 01:34:19 am »
very nice one Tom! 
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« Reply #28 on: July 11, 2013, 03:24:28 am »
Here is an unusual turquoise snuff bottle being offered by Bonhams San Francisco.

http://www.bonhams.com/auctions/20989/lot/2698/

I cannot understand why there is so much black covering it. Is the bottle shape following the dark veins?

 

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« Reply #29 on: July 11, 2013, 04:02:54 am »
The black is a matrix, or iron pyrite.

Check the "Matrix" section of this page out Tom..

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« Reply #30 on: July 11, 2013, 04:26:05 am »
Thanks George,

So the matrix can be the dominant material in the composition, as seems to be the case here.
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« Reply #31 on: July 11, 2013, 04:33:41 am »
Yes, apparently so Tom..

I suppose like any other mineral that is mined.. There are areas that are heavily concentrated with ( in this case ) turquoise, and other sections of the mine that are less concentrated..
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« Reply #32 on: July 11, 2013, 05:00:29 am »
Hi Tom

Here is a turquoise bottle with its black matrix.

Enjoy!


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« Reply #33 on: July 11, 2013, 09:54:05 am »
Lovely bottle Richard. Is it one of yours?

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« Reply #34 on: July 11, 2013, 11:11:53 am »
Hi Tom

Yes, it is in my collection.

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« Reply #35 on: July 13, 2013, 09:32:40 am »
The bottles shown are very nice.
Tom, yours reminds me a bit of the one I illustrated in my 1987 catalogue, #35, which I purchased from the late, deeply mourned Eunice Cameron of blessed memory, who worked for HM Moss & Co.
Could someone who has my catalogue post it please?
Thanks.
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« Reply #36 on: July 13, 2013, 10:01:23 am »
Yes Joey,

Your bottle #35 is quite similar to mine. Unfortunately, I have no scanner at home, so cannot post a picture of it for you.

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« Reply #37 on: July 14, 2013, 01:12:35 am »
Hi Joey

Here you go.

Sorry, the color of the scan was a bit off.

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« Reply #38 on: July 14, 2013, 09:11:08 am »
   No worries, TomL. Thank you, Richard. I knew there would be someone who could.  Wink
Stupidly, when I had my godson Yousuf here a few weeks ago, I didn't think to have him teach me how to use my scanner to put things on the computer. I use it as a copier...  Sad
   He was the one who put the pic of me with Harvey and Barney (my horse and my donkey) on the Forum for me. The congratulations re.my entering the 21st century were a tad premature, I'm afraid.
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« Reply #39 on: October 11, 2013, 03:04:00 am »
George,

Could you tell me if this turquoise bottle of mine if made
of material from the US source ? I do not have a stopper that goes with it.

i bought it in Beijing, China in 1990 from the Friendship Store there.

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