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HELP IDENTIFYING AND EVALUATING THIS BOTTLE

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« on: January 18, 2013, 05:02:03 pm »

THIS IS THE LAST BOTTLE IN MY COLLECTION. SINCE DEC 7TH I HAVE POSTED 9 BOTTLES AND THIS IS THE LAST IN MY COLLECTION. I NEED HELP WITH EVALUATING AND IDENTIFYING THIS BOTTLE....THANK YOU FOR LOOKING AND RESPONDING ..DENNIS


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« Reply #1 on: January 18, 2013, 07:14:06 pm »

Hi Dennis ,

This is a' Dao guang nan zhi' Mark and period bottle(1830-1850).the motif is popular 18 Lohan scene, very attractive bottle.

If you ever want to sell it, please let me know.Smiley

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« Reply #2 on: January 20, 2013, 11:01:16 am »

THANKS STEVEN. FOR YOUR CRITIQUE OF MY SNUFF BOTTLES. YOUR KNOWLEDGE BASE ALONG WITH THE OTHER COLLECTORS HAS BEEN INVALUABLE. I DON’T KNOW MY ASS FROM A HOLE IN THE GROUND WHEN IT COMES TO THE IDENTIFICATION BASED ON SEAL,THEME,ARTIST ETC. OF SNUFF BOTTLES.

 I HAVE NEVER RESEARCHED SNUFF BOTTLES UNTIL BONHAMS BIG SALE IN HONG KONG WITH THE PAUL BRAGA, MARY AND GEORGE BLOCH COLLECTION MADE ME LOOK AT THAT AUCTION CATALOG. THEN ON TO OTHER CATALOGS AVAILABLE ON LINE THAT INCLUDED SNUFF BOTTLES WITH PRICES REALIZED. THANKS FOR THE OFFER TO SELL. ALL OF MY SNUFF BOTTLES ARE FOR SALE JUST WORKING ON THE CORRECT APPROACH.  DR. WANG AT SOTHEBY'S HAS SEEN THE BOTTLES AND SENT ME A PRELIMINARY APPRAISAL FOR THE WHOLE COLLECTION. IF YOU WANT TO SEE THE CORRESPONDENCE THREAD I WILL BE MORE THAN HAPPY TO SHARE IT WITH YOU AND THE FORUM...MANY THANKS

DENNIS
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« Reply #3 on: January 20, 2013, 10:59:26 pm »

Tom B or Giovanni,

When you get a chance, would you please take a look this bottle, I might well be wrong on the date.

-Dennis,

Would you mind let us know that how Dr. Wang date the bottle, or what is the estimate on the bottle?

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« Reply #4 on: January 24, 2013, 10:07:09 am »

THANKS FOR THE TIME AND YOUR OBSERVATIONS . I WILL TALK TO GEORGE AND SEE ABOUT POSTING DR. WANGS APPRAISAL. I WILL SAY HIS APRAISAL WAS FOR THE LOT.   I WILL POST MY BIO AND DR. WANGS APPRAISAL TODAY OR TOMORROW...
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« Reply #5 on: January 24, 2013, 10:31:49 am »

Dennis,

Please discuss with  George (our administrator) before posting any appraisals or personal information on this Forum.
If you do, it should be posted in the PRIVATE section for Members Only.....not here.
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« Reply #6 on: January 24, 2013, 04:07:32 pm »

Hey Dennis... I just replied to your email ..

Give me a bit, and will reply once again.. Will either reply here for you or by email..
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« Reply #7 on: January 24, 2013, 04:57:10 pm »

I found this bottle a strange one. I believe that it hase some age, it is not a new replica for sure. But I have never seen this motif represented that way. It can either be of the period or not, I don't know.
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« Reply #8 on: January 24, 2013, 05:47:06 pm »

I POSTED MY QUESTIONS TO THE MEMBERS LOUNGE...AND WILL FOLLOW YOUR DIRECTION.
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« Reply #9 on: January 28, 2013, 08:38:22 pm »

I CAN SAY THAT DR. WANG'S OBSERVATION WAS FOR THE WHOLE LOT AND I WILL SHARE THE CORRESPONDENCE THREAD WHEN YOU TELL ME ITS OK...I REPEAT THAT IT WAS AN EVALUATION ON THE COLLECTION OF 10 BOTTLES
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« Reply #10 on: January 28, 2013, 11:11:03 pm »

I CAN SAY THAT DR. WANG'S OBSERVATION WAS FOR THE WHOLE LOT AND I WILL SHARE THE CORRESPONDENCE THREAD WHEN YOU TELL ME ITS OK...I REPEAT THAT IT WAS AN EVALUATION ON THE COLLECTION OF 10 BOTTLES

Go ahead Dennis  Smiley
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« Reply #11 on: February 18, 2013, 04:13:37 pm »

Sorry George. Do you want me to post Dr. Wangs letter in the members lounge?
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« Reply #12 on: February 18, 2013, 05:59:06 pm »

I am second guessing myself now after telling you to go ahead and post it..

I wonder if the best thing to do is since all members know you have it to show for reference to your lot of bottles, if we should just let anyone who needs to see it, contact you for it if they feel it would make a difference in purchasing your bottles ??

Rather than posting it on the open forum...

I am a bit stumped as to knowing how Dr. Wang might feel if he saw it posted here...  Huh 

At least everyone knows you can share it with them if need be ? 

 
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« Reply #13 on: February 18, 2013, 06:32:55 pm »

George

I think you answered your own dilemma.  Your suggestion is the right one, in my view.

Dennis

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« Reply #14 on: February 18, 2013, 09:45:48 pm »

George,

I second that. Sounds like the most sensible thing to do. I don't think Dr. Wang's comments should be posted on a public forum without his consent.

Good luck Dennis!
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