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« Reply #20 on: August 25, 2013, 04:34:51 pm »

I have nothing helpful to contribute...just want to say it's gorgeous and no wonder people get hooked on collecting these!
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« Reply #21 on: August 25, 2013, 04:55:11 pm »

Dear Alexis,
you are going to be beaten by the snuff bottle collecting bug I think Smiley Smiley
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« Reply #22 on: July 26, 2014, 06:15:11 am »

Dear all,
I am resurrecting this old thread because I have found and bought another bottle made with the same technique. As you can see it is a simple cylindrical bottle, but the technique is exactly the same.
In the discussion of the hand shaped bottle we have discussed about the way it was manufactures without reaching a sure conclusion. Now I can say that in both cases we can see that the air bubbles trapped in the outer layer , as also the black dots, are elongated. The bubbles are not round, they are oval. This, together with the thinning of the thickness of the outer layer on the sharp edges, is suggesting that the outer layer has been “pulled” over the inner core like a sort of glove. Who knows.
Anyway, I am glad of having two examples of the same type.
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Giovanni
PS: I have to add that the new bottle has some age, it has a general surface wear, very convincing.


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« Reply #23 on: July 26, 2014, 11:03:47 am »

Interesting glass, Giovanni. Congratulations.
Shabbat Shalom,
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« Reply #24 on: July 26, 2014, 12:57:50 pm »

Giovanni,

Very nice new acquisition!  Now onto how the bottle was made, in talking to glass blowers it is my understanding that it is similar to this paper weight shown in the video provide below.  Your bottle starts out as a “Parison” of white glass (i.e., the rounded mass of molten glass formed by rolling the substance immediately after removal from the furnace) at the end of a blowpipe.  Then it is either a double dip into molten yellow glass or dipped into yellow glass “fritts” (a glass sand) and then dipped into brown glass “Shards” as shown in the video.  Reheated and shaped in a similar process as shown.  Your bottle could have possibly been turned horizontally in a wooden mould as indicated or blown into a vertical mould to acquire the final shape as shown in the picture below.

From someone who is still trying to learn the finer details of this process, Charll
   
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« Reply #25 on: July 26, 2014, 01:52:34 pm »

Interesting bottle Giovanni , and excellent info Charll !

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« Reply #26 on: July 26, 2014, 03:05:42 pm »

Dear Charll,
thank you, very interesting and most probably the bottle has been molded that way or with a similar technique. Interesting video, thank you again.
Kind regards
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« Reply #27 on: July 26, 2014, 06:27:46 pm »

Very nice bottle Giovanni.  Enjoyed the Video Charll.
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« Reply #28 on: July 26, 2014, 07:40:56 pm »

Very nice bottle Giovanni.  Enjoyed the Video Charll.

Ditto from me,  Wink
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« Reply #29 on: July 26, 2014, 07:59:30 pm »

Thanks for sharing Charll! 

Giovanni

Nice acquisition... you seem to be on a roll.  Seems there are quite a bit of snuff bottles in Italy, which is kind of surprising to me.   Or did you acquire it from an auction house? 

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« Reply #30 on: July 26, 2014, 08:22:33 pm »

This is like a classroom to me except more fun. Thanks Giovanni and Charll for sharing your expertise.

Cheers,
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« Reply #31 on: July 26, 2014, 09:22:58 pm »

Charll,

What a quick course on glass making techniques ! I enjoyed the video link.

Giovanni,

Beautiful bottle.

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« Reply #32 on: July 27, 2014, 02:23:49 am »

Very informative, Charll!

Thanks for sharing!


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« Reply #33 on: July 27, 2014, 01:15:18 pm »

Dear Pat,
no, I have found it on Ebay. Despite the provenance (we all know that ebay is a dangerous place) I went without fail on this thanks to the experience of the previous hand shaped one.
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« Reply #34 on: July 28, 2014, 01:46:03 am »


What a quick course on glass making techniques ! I enjoyed the video link.


Ditto from me!
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