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« on: July 27, 2012, 10:57:41 am »

Described as glass, but I have never seen a glass like this before..

Not so sure it is glass.

Any ideas ?



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« Reply #1 on: July 27, 2012, 11:03:25 am »

Hi George,

Yeah, it looks glass to me, could be a glass imitating stone bottle, I have a couple of glass imitating agates , will share once I have a chance.

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« Reply #2 on: July 27, 2012, 08:54:27 pm »

Hello-

From the photo it certainly appears to be glass.  The tiny nicks to the surface have conchoidal fractured surfaces, which is often seen in glass.  I would rule out gemstone material and porcelain but working from a picture can be confusing.

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« Reply #3 on: July 28, 2012, 01:21:48 am »

I agree glass - based on the nicks, looks like it is imitating yixing pottery to me! Unusual since most of the glass imitations tend to imitate stones or coral, but the shape is often seen in metal bottles.
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« Reply #4 on: July 29, 2012, 04:24:25 am »

I had an example of this type glass snuff bottle when I started collecting (ca.1970-1975). The auction catalogue (Ward Price Auctions, Toronto) called it "glass imitating caramel agate". I'd never heard of 'caramel agate' and have not since. But definitely glass.
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« Reply #5 on: July 29, 2012, 09:18:27 am »

I'd never heard of 'caramel agate' and have not since. But definitely glass.


Me either Joey ...

The bidding has gone up over 25.00.. I am not sure it is worth much more than that..
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« Reply #6 on: July 29, 2012, 09:20:59 am »

George,
  I tend to agree with you.
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« Reply #7 on: July 29, 2012, 08:10:23 pm »

Dear Joey, et al

I love the moniker "caramel agate".  LOL  As a former employee of an auction house I can attest to the fact that many catalogers know only a surface bit of information on the object they are attempting to describe.  I would hate to see what I would come up with if given a piece of ancient Egyptian art to catalog.

If a cataloger knows his/her subject with some depth, the description will use "standard" terms.  If the cataloger has less than an in-depth knowledge of a subject, they tend to pull adjectives "out of the air".  I suspect this is how the description "caramel agate" came about.

Don't be too hard on the catalogers though.  Many are over-worked and have a wide variety of pieces pushed on their desk for description.  I have always found it best to push a piece I know nothing about off of my desk and on to someone else's and let the mud be on their face.

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« Reply #8 on: July 30, 2012, 06:06:20 am »

Rick,
  The Auction House in question, Ward Price, in Toronto, was very small, and one guy covered Antiquities,  'Oriental' (!) and Pre-Columbian! But at 14-15, I was very impressed with his cataloguing skills! The fact that he was tall, good-looking, and well built, with a past in the Canadian Army (he was 28 and had been in the army from 18-23), had absolutely nothing to do with my admiration. Wink
  Is that the 'CYA' theory ("Cover Your Ass") of cataloguing?!
What, have you been teaching Pres. Obama and his staff in your free time? Wink Cheesy
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