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1  Public Forum Categories and Boards / Inside Painted Chinese Snuff Bottles / Early, Middle and Modern Period Bottles 内画鼻烟壶/早期,中期,现代 / Re: Le San bottle? on: April 13, 2018, 05:52:46 pm
Thanks Rube

Here is the discussion on Bi Rongjui and Le San

http://snuffbottle.smfforfree.com/index.php/topic,3362.20.html

Geoff
2  Public Forum Categories and Boards / Inside Painted Chinese Snuff Bottles / Early, Middle and Modern Period Bottles 内画鼻烟壶/早期,中期,现代 / Re: Le San bottle? on: April 12, 2018, 07:11:45 am
Thanks for the translation and comments Pin.

Unfortunately no date, and not much closer on who Le San is (or maybe was). The auction house called him Zhu Lesan so maybe they know more than I do - I'll ask.
I'm sure I've seen bottles like this one elsewhere, maybe even on this site.

Geoff

3  Public Forum Categories and Boards / Inside Painted Chinese Snuff Bottles / Early, Middle and Modern Period Bottles 内画鼻烟壶/早期,中期,现代 / Le San bottle? on: April 11, 2018, 07:38:51 pm
I don't often add bottles to my collection but I added this one because it was not expensive and I thought I had seen similar designs in books (and it has birds (swallows) on it)



I found the following similar but rather better painted bottle on page 41 of Chinese Inside Painting of the Modern Age. It also has an almost identical text, except for the first character



What does the text say?
Does anyone know anything about Le San?

Thanks for your help
Geoff

4  The Gathering / The Lounge / Re: Wang XiSan Articles on: January 13, 2018, 07:33:33 pm
Hi Pin

This is really interesting - great work. I had not realised Wang Xisan's early career had been so badly affected by the Cultural Revolution.
Where do these articles come from?

Also can you identify any other well-known artists in the two group photos in Part 3?
I think I can identify one individual (non-artist) in the photo above the words "Saved At Last".

Geoff 
5  Public Forum Categories and Boards / 中国现代内画艺术家网站 Websites of Modern Chinese Inside Painted Artists / 欢迎艺术家们发布网站地址和博&a / Re: Master Li Yingtao 李英涛大师 on: November 15, 2017, 02:51:23 am
These are really interesting and quite amazing bottles Steven.

As you mention in your introduction, the painting style of mixing colours gives a strong visual impact and a style which I don't think I've ever seen before on inside-painted bottles. While it's quite easy to mix colours like this on a canvas or in watercolour on paper, I don't know how he can do it inside painting on glass, certainly not with this degree of control.

It's surely quite unique - are there any other artists who can do this?  Like Peter, I would be interested in buying but I suspect the price would be too high.

When did he start painting in this style? His bottles do not appear in Chinese Inside Painting of the Modern Age.

Geoff

6  Miscellaneous / Special Events, and Snuff Bottle News / Re: Grandmaster Lu Jianguang on: October 29, 2017, 12:58:45 am
That is really sad.

I remember well seeing him painting as visiting artist at Chinese Arts & Crafts in Hong Kong in around 2000, when I bought this six bottle masterpiece from him

http://snuffbottle.smfforfree.com/index.php/topic,1989.0.html

and then meeting him again in Singapore with Richy and Pin a few years ago.

A great master of detailed inside painting and a very nice man as well. He achieved a great deal in his relatively short life and that is something we can all be thankful for. May he rest in peace in the knowledge he has left a great legacy.

Geoff
7  General Category / General Forum Information and Guides / Re: This is a tough one guys... on: September 13, 2017, 06:38:15 pm
George

You've done a fantastic job keeping us all under control as well as adding your experience and opinions which are far more important than you seem to believe.
You will be sorely (and surely) missed by us all.

Enjoy your rest but stay with us please.

Geoff
8  Public Forum Categories and Boards / Inside Painted Chinese Snuff Bottles / Early, Middle and Modern Period Bottles 内画鼻烟壶/早期,中期,现代 / Re: I know we all miss out on a bottle from time to time, but... on: September 10, 2017, 06:09:26 pm
Yes, the calligraphy text appears to be different.

As I mentioned above, this seller has a habit of relisting bottles after they have apparently been 'sold'.
Maybe sometimes the same bottles, maybe sometimes copies.
I've seen it on a number of other bottles from them.

They also use different seller names but from the same location, Nanyang, China.
They are always Free Shipping which I find a bit surprising.

Geoff
9  Public Forum Categories and Boards / Inside Painted Chinese Snuff Bottles / Early, Middle and Modern Period Bottles 内画鼻烟壶/早期,中期,现代 / Re: I know we all miss out on a bottle from time to time, but... on: September 06, 2017, 09:54:43 pm
George

This seller sometimes re-posts bottles, even though they are recorded as sold.
So keep watching.

Geoff
10  The Gathering / The Lounge / Re: Qing imperial birthday celebration themed exhibition on: July 15, 2017, 06:06:47 pm
I agree with Samson. Hong Kong has suddenly woken up to its Chinese heritage with these three exhibitions in 2017.
Unfortunately no snuff bottles on display at either exhibition but there are many other original treasures from Beijing in the two currently open.

The timing is no doubt related to the 20 Year Anniversary of the handover of Hong Kong and the recent visit of Chinese President Xi Jinping and his wife.

But we are all waiting for the opening of the new Hong Kong Palace Museum in the Western Kowloon Cultural Centre, which will have both permanent and occasional exhibits of treasures from the Palace Museum in Beijing. This will include snuff bottles and will be a great attraction for members. Not sure when it is due to be opened.

Geoff   
11  The Gathering / The Lounge / Re: HK Members Gathering - June 2017 on: June 18, 2017, 05:36:40 pm
Actually Joey, the other Geoff was a very good listener.

But then he didn't really have much choice.
Which probably explains the frown - "What the heck are these guys talking about?"

Geoff
12  The Gathering / The Lounge / Re: HK Members Gathering - June 2017 on: June 18, 2017, 06:05:55 am
I just thought the photo made me look a bit small Joey.
Maybe it's just my sensitivity.

You could also say the photo makes Samson look a bit young.
But in his case, it's completely accurate.
And he's now got two kids! (he showed us some great photos of them).

Geoff
13  The Gathering / The Lounge / Re: HK Members Gathering - June 2017 on: June 18, 2017, 05:43:50 am
Thanks Samson

For those members who don't know us, we are, in order from left, Peter Bentley, Geoff Welch and Samson Lee with Samson's uncle, also a Geoff, on the right.

I would like to point out that I am not a dwarf, as appears in this photo, but Samson and I are kneeling on the ground with the two 'big' guys, Peter and the other Geoff, sitting on chairs. It was the only way we could get a close-up photo of everyone.

Geoff (Welch)
14  The Gathering / The Lounge / Re: Something Chinese to warm your heart on: June 17, 2017, 07:30:37 pm
Two years ago this little girl was singing in an open auditorium next to my house in Hong Kong. She had a spectacular voice then which just seems to get better.

Since then, I've followed her progress through the China and UK "I've got talent" shows and now she wows them in USA.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m0J-BwkQK4A

Geoff 
15  Shop and Swap / Current and Upcoming Auctions / Discussion About Bottles / Re: Sotheby's Hong Kong Auction 2 June 2017 on: June 15, 2017, 05:25:09 pm
It costs them nothing to send an on-line pre-sale catalogue by email - instead, they sent me a "results" catalogue by email.

I think in this case they forgot to send out pre-sale catalogues to many people - quite an error.
Some people knew it was on - the photos with the post-sale catalogue show a full room of bidders. But so many unsold items and low prices for anything that did sell!!

It will be interesting to hear the story from them - hope Joey or Tom get a reply with the personal touch, unlike me.

Geoff
16  Shop and Swap / Current and Upcoming Auctions / Discussion About Bottles / Re: Sotheby's Hong Kong Auction 2 June 2017 on: June 14, 2017, 05:00:48 pm
Thanks Tom

I sent an email to Sotheby's Hong Kong a few days ago asking whether they had distributed any emails or catalogues before the 2 June Auction but have not had any reply.

I last received a message from Julian King, Sotheby's HK, in March of this year. I think he is still at Sotheby's HK - you could try sending a message to him if you know him.

Geoff   
17  Shop and Swap / Current and Upcoming Auctions / Discussion About Bottles / Re: Sotheby's Hong Kong Auction 2 June 2017 on: June 10, 2017, 06:13:43 pm
Thanks Tom and Joey

I thought perhaps I had inadvertently deleted the catalogue in my emails. But it seems not.

An amazing mistake by a professional auctioneer like Sotheby's.
If I had bottles for sale, I would be asking for some compensation, particularly if my bottle had been sold at a low price.

Geoff
18  Shop and Swap / Current and Upcoming Auctions / Discussion About Bottles / Sotheby's Hong Kong Auction 2 June 2017 on: June 10, 2017, 07:47:56 am
I've just been sent the results from a Sotheby's Hong Kong auction on 2 June as here - snuff bottles are Lots 457 to 509

http://www.sothebys.com/en/auctions/2017/chinese-art-hk0732.html?cmp=email_HK0732_HK0771__aur_chinese-art_9-jun-2017

Results look very poor, many Lots not sold.
Any comments as to why?

(One comment from me - I wasn't even aware the auction was taking place!)

Geoff
 
19  Public Forum Categories and Boards / IP Artists of the Very Modern Period ( 1990 to Present ) / Re: Tie Ming on: April 30, 2017, 05:33:19 pm
Peter was right to be confused - it seems there are two artists using the same pen name Tie Min (鉄民) although from two different generations.

Peter's Wang Tie Min was painting bottles in the 1990s using Tie Min (鉄民) - here is one of mine



with signature panel



The latest Tie Min (鉄民) is painting calligraphy in the 2016+ years.

I hope I've got my Chinese right.

Geoff
20  Public Forum Categories and Boards / Inside Painted Chinese Snuff Bottles / Early, Middle and Modern Period Bottles 内画鼻烟壶/早期,中期,现代 / Re: Inside Painted Bottle with Geese in a Winter Scene on: March 26, 2017, 07:45:50 pm
Thanks Toni-Lee

Eldred's are still going strong on Auctions and usually include some Chinese snuff bottles in most of their Asian Art auctions. Others here will know them better.

I'm intrigued that they should have a Chen Renpu bottle in their auction in 1979! - hot off the press!

Geoff
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