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1  General Category / General Forum Information and Guides / Re: This is a tough one guys... on: September 13, 2017, 06:38:15 pm
George

You've done a fantastic job keeping us all under control as well as adding your experience and opinions which are far more important than you seem to believe.
You will be sorely (and surely) missed by us all.

Enjoy your rest but stay with us please.

Geoff
2  Public Forum Categories and Boards / Inside Painted Chinese Snuff Bottles / Early, Middle and Modern Period Bottles 内画鼻烟壶/早期,中期,现代 / Re: I know we all miss out on a bottle from time to time, but... on: September 10, 2017, 06:09:26 pm
Yes, the calligraphy text appears to be different.

As I mentioned above, this seller has a habit of relisting bottles after they have apparently been 'sold'.
Maybe sometimes the same bottles, maybe sometimes copies.
I've seen it on a number of other bottles from them.

They also use different seller names but from the same location, Nanyang, China.
They are always Free Shipping which I find a bit surprising.

Geoff
3  Public Forum Categories and Boards / Inside Painted Chinese Snuff Bottles / Early, Middle and Modern Period Bottles 内画鼻烟壶/早期,中期,现代 / Re: I know we all miss out on a bottle from time to time, but... on: September 06, 2017, 09:54:43 pm
George

This seller sometimes re-posts bottles, even though they are recorded as sold.
So keep watching.

Geoff
4  The Gathering / The Lounge / Re: Qing imperial birthday celebration themed exhibition on: July 15, 2017, 06:06:47 pm
I agree with Samson. Hong Kong has suddenly woken up to its Chinese heritage with these three exhibitions in 2017.
Unfortunately no snuff bottles on display at either exhibition but there are many other original treasures from Beijing in the two currently open.

The timing is no doubt related to the 20 Year Anniversary of the handover of Hong Kong and the recent visit of Chinese President Xi Jinping and his wife.

But we are all waiting for the opening of the new Hong Kong Palace Museum in the Western Kowloon Cultural Centre, which will have both permanent and occasional exhibits of treasures from the Palace Museum in Beijing. This will include snuff bottles and will be a great attraction for members. Not sure when it is due to be opened.

Geoff   
5  The Gathering / The Lounge / Re: HK Members Gathering - June 2017 on: June 18, 2017, 05:36:40 pm
Actually Joey, the other Geoff was a very good listener.

But then he didn't really have much choice.
Which probably explains the frown - "What the heck are these guys talking about?"

Geoff
6  The Gathering / The Lounge / Re: HK Members Gathering - June 2017 on: June 18, 2017, 06:05:55 am
I just thought the photo made me look a bit small Joey.
Maybe it's just my sensitivity.

You could also say the photo makes Samson look a bit young.
But in his case, it's completely accurate.
And he's now got two kids! (he showed us some great photos of them).

Geoff
7  The Gathering / The Lounge / Re: HK Members Gathering - June 2017 on: June 18, 2017, 05:43:50 am
Thanks Samson

For those members who don't know us, we are, in order from left, Peter Bentley, Geoff Welch and Samson Lee with Samson's uncle, also a Geoff, on the right.

I would like to point out that I am not a dwarf, as appears in this photo, but Samson and I are kneeling on the ground with the two 'big' guys, Peter and the other Geoff, sitting on chairs. It was the only way we could get a close-up photo of everyone.

Geoff (Welch)
8  The Gathering / The Lounge / Re: Something Chinese to warm your heart on: June 17, 2017, 07:30:37 pm
Two years ago this little girl was singing in an open auditorium next to my house in Hong Kong. She had a spectacular voice then which just seems to get better.

Since then, I've followed her progress through the China and UK "I've got talent" shows and now she wows them in USA.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m0J-BwkQK4A

Geoff 
9  Shop and Swap / Current and Upcoming Auctions / Discussion About Bottles / Re: Sotheby's Hong Kong Auction 2 June 2017 on: June 15, 2017, 05:25:09 pm
It costs them nothing to send an on-line pre-sale catalogue by email - instead, they sent me a "results" catalogue by email.

I think in this case they forgot to send out pre-sale catalogues to many people - quite an error.
Some people knew it was on - the photos with the post-sale catalogue show a full room of bidders. But so many unsold items and low prices for anything that did sell!!

It will be interesting to hear the story from them - hope Joey or Tom get a reply with the personal touch, unlike me.

Geoff
10  Shop and Swap / Current and Upcoming Auctions / Discussion About Bottles / Re: Sotheby's Hong Kong Auction 2 June 2017 on: June 14, 2017, 05:00:48 pm
Thanks Tom

I sent an email to Sotheby's Hong Kong a few days ago asking whether they had distributed any emails or catalogues before the 2 June Auction but have not had any reply.

I last received a message from Julian King, Sotheby's HK, in March of this year. I think he is still at Sotheby's HK - you could try sending a message to him if you know him.

Geoff   
11  Shop and Swap / Current and Upcoming Auctions / Discussion About Bottles / Re: Sotheby's Hong Kong Auction 2 June 2017 on: June 10, 2017, 06:13:43 pm
Thanks Tom and Joey

I thought perhaps I had inadvertently deleted the catalogue in my emails. But it seems not.

An amazing mistake by a professional auctioneer like Sotheby's.
If I had bottles for sale, I would be asking for some compensation, particularly if my bottle had been sold at a low price.

Geoff
12  Shop and Swap / Current and Upcoming Auctions / Discussion About Bottles / Sotheby's Hong Kong Auction 2 June 2017 on: June 10, 2017, 07:47:56 am
I've just been sent the results from a Sotheby's Hong Kong auction on 2 June as here - snuff bottles are Lots 457 to 509

http://www.sothebys.com/en/auctions/2017/chinese-art-hk0732.html?cmp=email_HK0732_HK0771__aur_chinese-art_9-jun-2017

Results look very poor, many Lots not sold.
Any comments as to why?

(One comment from me - I wasn't even aware the auction was taking place!)

Geoff
 
13  Public Forum Categories and Boards / IP Artists of the Very Modern Period ( 1990 to Present ) / Re: Tie Ming on: April 30, 2017, 05:33:19 pm
Peter was right to be confused - it seems there are two artists using the same pen name Tie Min (鉄民) although from two different generations.

Peter's Wang Tie Min was painting bottles in the 1990s using Tie Min (鉄民) - here is one of mine



with signature panel



The latest Tie Min (鉄民) is painting calligraphy in the 2016+ years.

I hope I've got my Chinese right.

Geoff
14  Public Forum Categories and Boards / Inside Painted Chinese Snuff Bottles / Early, Middle and Modern Period Bottles 内画鼻烟壶/早期,中期,现代 / Re: Inside Painted Bottle with Geese in a Winter Scene on: March 26, 2017, 07:45:50 pm
Thanks Toni-Lee

Eldred's are still going strong on Auctions and usually include some Chinese snuff bottles in most of their Asian Art auctions. Others here will know them better.

I'm intrigued that they should have a Chen Renpu bottle in their auction in 1979! - hot off the press!

Geoff
15  Public Forum Categories and Boards / Inside Painted Chinese Snuff Bottles / Early, Middle and Modern Period Bottles 内画鼻烟壶/早期,中期,现代 / Re: Inside Painted Bottle with Geese in a Winter Scene on: March 26, 2017, 06:31:24 pm
Wow, a really good bottle Toni-Lee. Congratulations!

According to the texts in A New Look and Inside painting of the Modern Age (both have several pages on Chen Runpu), he only started signing his art name (Run San) in the late 70's - so this is a really early bottle for him.

Can I ask where the auction was?

Geoff
16  Public Forum Categories and Boards / Inside Painted Chinese Snuff Bottles / Early, Middle and Modern Period Bottles 内画鼻烟壶/早期,中期,现代 / Mao Poem on: March 12, 2017, 04:06:43 am
Another hexagonal bottle sourced from Bill Patrick.
This time a poem by Chairman Mao, To The Plum Blossom.

Here are the six sides of the bottle





Here is a translation of the poem, To The Plum Blossom, dated December 1961

Wind and rain escorted Spring's departure,
Flying snow welcomes Spring's return.
On the ice-clad rock rising high and sheer
A flower blooms sweet and fair.
Sweet and fair, she craves not Spring for herself alone,
To be the harbinger of Spring she is content.
When the mountain flowers are in full bloom
She will smile mingling in their midst.

and here is a new way to look at the bottle



I think the bottle is dated 1971 but may be later.

This bottle is very similar to one I have seen in the Hong Kong Heritage Museum, in the T. T. Tsui Gallery.

Geoff 

17  Public Forum Categories and Boards / Inside Painted Chinese Snuff Bottles / Early, Middle and Modern Period Bottles 内画鼻烟壶/早期,中期,现代 / Re: Three friends of winter/ Three styles of calligraphy on: March 02, 2017, 07:04:45 pm
Thanks Joey

I agree, once you use x in pinyin you should continue to use x and not hs.
But is there any distinction between them? Are there times when you should use one and not the other?

Geoff
18  Public Forum Categories and Boards / Inside Painted Chinese Snuff Bottles / Early, Middle and Modern Period Bottles 内画鼻烟壶/早期,中期,现代 / Re: Poem.. on: March 02, 2017, 04:03:48 pm
Thanks George, nice bottle.

But I can't see any Orioles - they are yellow.
Maybe they meant OREOs - seems quite a few of them just outside the house.

Geoff
19  Public Forum Categories and Boards / Inside Painted Chinese Snuff Bottles / Early, Middle and Modern Period Bottles 内画鼻烟壶/早期,中期,现代 / Re: Three friends of winter/ Three styles of calligraphy on: March 02, 2017, 03:58:06 pm
Thanks George

Yes Charll, it's the same bottle. I bought it from Bill.
He's a good and reliable source of bottles, I have several from him.

Geoff
20  Public Forum Categories and Boards / Inside Painted Chinese Snuff Bottles / Early, Middle and Modern Period Bottles 内画鼻烟壶/早期,中期,现代 / Three friends of winter/ Three styles of calligraphy on: March 02, 2017, 05:14:20 am
Pine, bamboo and plum blossom
Clerical (lishu), standard (kaishu) and semi-cursive (hsingshu) calligraphy

3+3 = 6 (so my boy tells me) and this bottle has six sides.
But I'm not sure if I've got them the right way around.







Hexagonal bottles are very difficult to photograph. But I think the bottle is signed Xiaosan, obviously a pen name, and dated 1970 but I doubt that, it looks much more modern.

Any other details on the Chinese, I would be pleased to hear.

Geoff





 
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