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1  Public Forum Categories and Boards / Porcelain and Yixing Chinese Snuff Bottles 瓷器和宜兴鼻烟壶 / Re: Underglazed Blue and Copper Red Designs on: July 09, 2018, 09:46:58 am
Dear Tom,
those color changes in underglaze red are normal, it may change from red to green to brown, depending on factors like temperature and especially the type of kiln atmosphere.
Nice bottle.
Kind regards
Giovanni
2  Public Forum Categories and Boards / Porcelain and Yixing Chinese Snuff Bottles 瓷器和宜兴鼻烟壶 / Re: Underglazed Blue and Copper Red Designs on: July 06, 2018, 03:39:35 pm
Dear Tom,
very nice and most important, if I am not wrong, very interesting.
I do not know if what I am seeing is due to the nature of copper red under glaze decoration, which usually is less sharp of the underglaze blue cobalt, or if it is instead due to the painting technique.
It seems to me that the second possibility is the valid one. I am not expert on Chinese painting, but to me here we have a particular painting style, similar to that which we can see on this dish of mine, which has been described as being painted in Jiaomo (dried-ink) style Chinese landscape painting.
It is dated Spring 1905, and signed Wang You Tang, a known artist which is also known as Wang Di.
It is the first time that I see a snuff bottle painted that way. I particularly like also the perfect execution of the base and foot. Very nice, thank you for posting it.
Kind regards
Giovanni
3  The Gathering / The Lounge / Re: Beware with new fakes on: June 14, 2018, 12:09:27 pm
I don't thjink so. Some shapes are good, some are completely off for old bottles. And all them are alcking any sign of wear.
Kind regards
Giovanni
4  The Gathering / The Lounge / Re: Beware with new fakes on: June 13, 2018, 02:05:17 pm
Dear Adrian,
that interesting. It seems that who bought the lot decided to resell it. Or may be the lot was not sold and the original owner is trying to sell on eBay.
Anyway there is no doubt that the description is not correct, these bottles are not 100 years old.
Kind regards
Giovanni
   
5  The Gathering / The Lounge / Beware with new fakes on: June 13, 2018, 02:31:54 am
Dear all,
have a look at the following bottle and make your own opinion. After that, come back here to read further:
https://www.ebay.com/itm/OLD-CHINESE-CARVED-AGATE-SNUFF-BOTTLE/323288190108?hash=item4b457a4c9c:g:JdoAAOSw-0RbFVnh
What has been your own opinion? My opinion was that the bottle is modern, but I was amazed by the quality of the carved inscription, the hollowing that looks that of the old bottles, just perfect. While the shape is nice and looks that of old bottles but not really convincing.
So to me modern, but with a very faint strange feeling like “…and if it is a real one?”. “No, it isn’t” has been my last conclusion.
Then I had a look at the other items on sale by the same seller, which is always a very instructive practice: four bottles, all carved in agate. If one was open for a small chance, it is gone I think.
The reason for posting this is to alert to the progressive, dangerous quality of the new fakes.  Note even the detail of the detached spoon, often found on old bottles.
What really they can't reproduce is the surface wear, which in fact is totally absent here.
Kind regards
Giovanni
6  Public Forum Categories and Boards / Porcelain and Yixing Chinese Snuff Bottles 瓷器和宜兴鼻烟壶 / Re: Cockerel marked B and W bottle. on: June 10, 2018, 04:13:40 am
Dear Joey,
you are right, I do not know why I have written "palm", I was probably almost sleeping Grin.
As for your last question, I am not saying that Adrian's bottle is a fake, I repeat that I have not a firm opinion about it, it so strange. But I must say that since a while I am seeing a lot, really many, old looking bottles that are suspicious, and in particular so many blue and white ones.
Kind regards
Giovanni
7  Public Forum Categories and Boards / Porcelain and Yixing Chinese Snuff Bottles 瓷器和宜兴鼻烟壶 / Re: Cockerel marked B and W bottle. on: June 09, 2018, 02:26:35 pm
Dear Adrian,
only now I am seeing this your bottle, thanks to Joey’s post. It escaped me when you did post it.
It is very strange to me. Judging by the potting, it seems an old one. The base, foot and shape are convincing and I understand Joey’s opinion.
What is strange to me is the decoration. The trunk of the palm is strange, isn’t it with that V shape? And the grass at its base too is drawn in a strange way. The style of the only figure that we see entirely too is strange.
What do you Joey think about the rooster on the base, have you already seen that?
My conclusion is a strange decoration on a bottle that is convincing looking old.
Don’t know what to say exactly.
Kind regards
Giovanni
8  Public Forum Categories and Boards / Gem, Stone, Rock and Fossil / Re: Bottle - Material and Age Help Please on: June 05, 2018, 01:05:01 pm
Dear Mat, it looks jade, but which is the reason for (closest to the original color"? Color is important! Why can't you set the White Balance of the camera and take the pictures as they should be?
Kind regards
Giovanni
9  Public Forum Categories and Boards / Organic, Metal, and Embellished Bottles / Re: Amber basketweave bottle. on: June 01, 2018, 01:35:32 pm
Dear Joey,
you are a sort of Encyclopedia of the snuff bottle field!
Dear Rube, it is a shame. I bought recently a Chinese porcelain hat stand at a local secondary auction and found after the purchase that they were asking 35% of the hammer price!
Giovanni
10  Public Forum Categories and Boards / Organic, Metal, and Embellished Bottles / Re: Amber basketweave bottle. on: May 30, 2018, 12:25:02 pm
Dear Adrian, well done! A further prove that knowledge is always rewarding.
Giovanni
11  Public Forum Categories and Boards / Inside Painted Chinese Snuff Bottles / Early, Middle and Modern Period Bottles 内画鼻烟壶/早期,中期,现代 / Re: Zhou leyuan signed bottle on: May 27, 2018, 05:14:40 am
Dear Steven and Joey,
I have no idea about the artist, not my field.
The motif is surely known by you: the wasp and monkey use homophones wasp (feng) which also sound like confer (feng) and monkey (hou) sounds like duke (hou) for rebus meaning "May you be conferred the rank of Duque".
Kind regards
Giovanni
12  Public Forum Categories and Boards / Inside Painted Chinese Snuff Bottles / Early, Middle and Modern Period Bottles 内画鼻烟壶/早期,中期,现代 / Re: Blue glass inside painted table top snuff bottle. Eight Immortals motif on: May 19, 2018, 11:11:52 am
Dear Thomas,
welcome to this Forum.
This morning, when I saw your first post, I was going to say the same that has been said by our friend Joey, but he preceded me.
I know almost nothing about inside painted bottles, it is not my field; others will tell you about the quality of your bottle. Nevertheless, now that the pictures are readable, I can tell you which are the motifs represented on each side. You may find it interesting.
Do google for "Eight immortals" and for "The eight horses of Mu Wang".
Have fun.
Giovanni
 
13  Public Forum Categories and Boards / Inside Painted Chinese Snuff Bottles / Early, Middle and Modern Period Bottles 内画鼻烟壶/早期,中期,现代 / Re: Chen ShaoFu bottle. on: May 16, 2018, 12:48:07 pm
Dear Adrian,
thank you for posting this bottle and for awaken the Forum.
I am impressed, if you have not said the painter, I was almost sure that it was a YYT bottle, especially on the second side.
Nice to know that! And nice bottle.
Kind regards
Giovanni
14  Public Forum Categories and Boards / Organic, Metal, and Embellished Bottles / Re: A root amber bottle on: May 09, 2018, 02:14:37 am
Nice say dear Joey, and it has validity too!
Kind regards
Giovanni
15  Public Forum Categories and Boards / Organic, Metal, and Embellished Bottles / Re: A root amber bottle on: May 08, 2018, 07:01:00 am
Joey, you have the ability of exactly "reading" what I think but often omit to say clearly.
I am bit worried Grin Grin
Kind regards
Giovanni
16  Public Forum Categories and Boards / Organic, Metal, and Embellished Bottles / Re: A root amber bottle on: May 08, 2018, 12:22:25 am
Congratulations dear Samson, nice pattern and for what we can see in the pictures the carving is of high quality.
Really nice bottle.
Giovanni
17  Public Forum Categories and Boards / Porcelain and Yixing Chinese Snuff Bottles 瓷器和宜兴鼻烟壶 / Two spotted horses on: May 05, 2018, 10:56:06 am
Dear all,
five days with no posts, that’s not good!
Let me brake the silence with this b&w bottle, decorated with two spotted horses crouched under a pine tree.
I take the opportunity to inform who may be interested, of the existence of a freeware program that can assemble the pictures in a single panorama one.
The software, as said, is completely free and its name is Hugin. You will find it easily on the net.
I think that, for optimum results, it needs some skill, or at least to read the tutorial.
I did not read the tutorial, I just took details of the same size of the bottle and ask the software to make a panorama.
I see that it is not possible to make a panorama of the whole bottle, it must be because of the neck.
And I see that the panorama is not perfect, but I think that, after knowing how to properly manage it, the result should be perfect.
For example, I see that the software made an automatic compensation of the exposition, so to have a uniform background.
If you simply join two pictures, you will see the joining line because of the back white, that is not uniform at the center and at the edges of each image. That has been corrected by the software.
Kind regards
Giovanni
18  Public Forum Categories and Boards / Porcelain and Yixing Chinese Snuff Bottles 瓷器和宜兴鼻烟壶 / Re: famille rose porcelain on: April 29, 2018, 04:38:06 pm
Dear Rube,
if I look at the side with the peony, I would say that it is of the Republic period. But the petals of the chrysanthemum have a thick enamel, with some blistering which is typical of an earlier period.
It could even be Tongzhi. My thought that it should be dated Tongzhi – Guangxu.
The tall foot too is pointing toward an old bottle I think.
Kind regards
Giovanni
19  Public Forum Categories and Boards / Glass Snuff Bottles / Re: Easter Bunny Realgar Glass Bottle on: April 03, 2018, 05:47:31 am

Dear Rube,
you are killing me with envy! Since long I am looking for a bottle of this type but have never found one.

Kind regards
Giovanni
20  Public Forum Categories and Boards / Gem, Stone, Rock and Fossil / Re: Agate carved with Peacock and dog. on: April 03, 2018, 05:44:32 am
Nice one dear Adrian. I agree with you. Although the carving is very nice, it would be better if not there, due to the already complicated pattern of the stone.
Kind regards
Giovanni
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