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Title: Clear Crystal
Post by: AntPeople on January 07, 2016, 10:45:04 pm
Hi All :

Sharing a "nothing much to see" bottle.........

(https://pix1.wikialbums.com/136823716022161236787724541532422521172321347897897197/151253925246184238250361981818124614324589136755344885/Photos/13096222745091000018674.jpg)

(https://pix1.wikialbums.com/136823716022161236787724541532422521172321347897897197/151253925246184238250361981818124614324589136755344885/Photos/13096222745342000072403.jpg)

Comments always welcome........

Pin


Title: Re: Clear Crystal
Post by: Wattana on January 07, 2016, 10:56:38 pm
Hi Pin,

Beautiful bottle! This is 100% my taste - "less is more" !!!  What Joey calls "Shibui" (渋い).  ;)

Can you give us some details, like how tall it is? View of mouth without stopper, etc?

Tom


Title: Re: Clear Crystal
Post by: rpfstoneman on January 07, 2016, 10:58:30 pm
Pin,

I love this bottle.  But then again I really appreciate simplicity, particularly in stone bottles.  I would suspect this bottle is +/- 6 cm without the stopper.  Do you have any provenance information on this bottle?

Charll

  


Title: Re: Clear Crystal
Post by: AntPeople on January 07, 2016, 11:59:41 pm
The bottle is 2,3/4 inches high...

I will try to take some pictures of the mouth during the weekend...

Pin


Title: Re: Clear Crystal
Post by: Wattana on January 08, 2016, 12:08:40 am

The bottle is 2,3/4 inches high...


That's 70 mm according to my scale rule. Nice size - I like bottles that fill the hand.

Tom


Title: Re: Clear Crystal
Post by: YT on January 08, 2016, 12:26:29 am
Dear Pin,

Agreed with Tom and Charll. Simple and nice.

Actually, a few Ma ShaoXuan crystals are around that height.
You want to commission him to draw something on this bottle? ::)

Cheers,
YT


Title: Re: Clear Crystal
Post by: richy88 on January 08, 2016, 12:27:37 am
Hi Yee Pin

It's so clear that I do not see anything!  ;D ;D

Good catch!


Richard


Title: Re: Clear Crystal
Post by: Fiveroosters aka clayandbrush on January 08, 2016, 04:06:42 am
Dear Pin,
it is superb, congratulations! Recently there was a similar bottle on ebay, listed as being glass. The pictures was so and so, hence I thougth that if I were lucky it could be quartz instead of glass, so I bought it. But the seller was right, i is glass! Luckily it was cheap. Here it is.
Kind regards
Giovanni
 


Title: Re: Clear Crystal
Post by: Fiveroosters aka clayandbrush on January 08, 2016, 04:21:12 am
It may be interesting a side by side comparison of the shapes. The thickness of the wall is the same, while my glass bottle is more slim.
Kind regards
Giovanni


Title: Re: Clear Crystal
Post by: George on January 08, 2016, 11:31:01 am
Outstanding bottles you two !


Title: Re: Clear Crystal
Post by: Joey Silver / Si Zhouyi 義周司 on January 08, 2016, 12:06:36 pm
Dear Pin & Giovanni,

      The quartz bottle is stunning, and the glass bottle would be very nice without the damage.
Apropos  YT's comment about Ma Shaoxuan; In 1988 at the San Francisco ICSBS convention, I displayed my 49 ex. Martin Schoen Collection bottles, and a few bottles I'd acquired elsewhere, which were with me.  Incidentally, this was the site of the famous (or infamous) incident with my 2 Israeli 'ex-commando' security guards, guarding my new treasures.

     An older gentleman, named Ed Combatalade Jr., came over with a small cigar box, in which he had 4 or 5 bottles from his collection. They were all crap. He stated to John Ford, the then-president, that he could not see that my bottles were any better than his. John told him that was why he had his bottles and I had mine. I said to Mr. C. jr. that in effect he was right - to every collector his own are the best!
    But I had to laugh, when he said, holding up a very poor quality portrait of the Yongcheng Emperor,
probably a tourist type souvenir, "And this one is signed by the artist, Yung Cheng!" I said, "Mr. C., that IS very rare! To have a bottle actually painted by a Qing Emperor, and over 60 years before the art was invented!".  ::)   ;D

     He was 'famous' for paying a flower breeder to develop a new type of Camellia called the Pat Nixon Camellia. It was a hybrid developed from the Richard Nixon Camellia, also sponsored by Mr. C. jr.

Best,
Shabbat Shalom,
Joey


Title: Re: Clear Crystal
Post by: Steven on January 08, 2016, 12:17:08 pm
Love the two bottles! congratulations to you all.:)


Title: Re: Clear Crystal
Post by: AntPeople on January 11, 2016, 06:48:17 pm
What will be a good estimated age of this bottle..... ? 1820-1850 ?

Pin


Title: Re: Clear Crystal
Post by: rpfstoneman on January 11, 2016, 11:06:28 pm

Pin,

I would think the age is more like 1820-1880's.  As indicated a number of interior painted bottles from the late 1800's have this bottle shape from what I've seen. 

Charll