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Title: Share a collection of tourmaline snuff bottle (No.003) Post by: guest540 on January 05, 2016, 04:49:28 pm This is an tourmaline snuff bottle,size is 5.6cm(without top)
Title: Re: Share a collection of tourmaline snuff bottle (No.003) Post by: Joey Silver / Si Zhouyi 義周司 on January 05, 2016, 05:20:33 pm Dear Eric,
The colour is off on your photos - that bottle looks much more like Amethyst than Tourmaline. It looks like a fine early bottle too, ca. 1780-1860. Best, Joey Title: Re: Share a collection of tourmaline snuff bottle (No.003) Post by: YT on January 05, 2016, 05:29:13 pm Dear Eric,
I saw the photos before looking at Joey's and was thinking what a nice double gourd Amethyst. This does not looked like a tourmaline. Cheers, YT Title: Re: Share a collection of tourmaline snuff bottle (No.003) Post by: Steven on January 05, 2016, 06:03:45 pm Dear Eric, I saw the photos before looking at Joey's and was thinking what a nice double gourd Amethyst. This does not looked like a tourmaline. Cheers, YT Same here.:) Nice bottle Eric!! Title: Re: Share a collection of tourmaline snuff bottle (No.003) Post by: guest540 on January 05, 2016, 06:36:13 pm Dear Joey YT and Steven,
The first time I saw the photo I also think it is Amethyst, but after receiving it I have a different view, the color of the picture and not the same color, the color and the image of the arrow pointing to the same. Title: Re: Share a collection of tourmaline snuff bottle (No.003) Post by: YT on January 05, 2016, 08:08:14 pm Dear Eric,
There is a purple shade in this bottle. Cheers, YT Title: Re: Share a collection of tourmaline snuff bottle (No.003) Post by: guest540 on January 05, 2016, 11:31:38 pm Dear YT,
The high light changed it original color. Title: Re: Share a collection of tourmaline snuff bottle (No.003) Post by: Steven on January 05, 2016, 11:51:25 pm That makes perfect sense. The pictures can fool people sometimes. :)
Title: Re: Share a collection of tourmaline snuff bottle (No.003) Post by: Fiveroosters aka clayandbrush on January 06, 2016, 02:46:41 am Dear Eric,
I too think that it is Amethyst. But it is right that the quality of the pictures is very important. It is not matter of too high light, it is matter of taking the pictures in correct way. In this case, the more reliable pictures are no doubt the first ones. We can see there that the white background is just a bit off, but not so much, so the color is close to the real. Instead, in the picture with the black keyboard we see that there is a strong reddish dominant, which is due to the type of light, that picture has been taken inside home with a warm tone lamp and the White Balance setting of the camera has not been adjusted accordingly. The last picture too is not right, for another reason. There the white balance seems good but you have placed a transparent bottle over the pink color of your hand, so we are looking at a blending of the two colors. What you should do is to place the bottle over a pure white background, or much better, a neutral pure grey background so the exposure will be more correct, then read the Owner’s manual of your camera and follow the instructions about the Custom White Balance setting. That way you will have a correct picture under the color rendering point of view. Kind regards Giovanni Title: Re: Share a collection of tourmaline snuff bottle (No.003) Post by: Joey Silver / Si Zhouyi 義周司 on January 06, 2016, 02:25:06 pm Dear Eric,
You have it 'live', so I will withhold judgement till I see it 'live' as well. ;D Best, Joey Title: Re: Share a collection of tourmaline snuff bottle (No.003) Post by: guest540 on January 07, 2016, 01:50:37 am Dear Eric, Dear Giovanni,I too think that it is Amethyst. But it is right that the quality of the pictures is very important. It is not matter of too high light, it is matter of taking the pictures in correct way. In this case, the more reliable pictures are no doubt the first ones. We can see there that the white background is just a bit off, but not so much, so the color is close to the real. Instead, in the picture with the black keyboard we see that there is a strong reddish dominant, which is due to the type of light, that picture has been taken inside home with a warm tone lamp and the White Balance setting of the camera has not been adjusted accordingly. The last picture too is not right, for another reason. There the white balance seems good but you have placed a transparent bottle over the pink color of your hand, so we are looking at a blending of the two colors. What you should do is to place the bottle over a pure white background, or much better, a neutral pure grey background so the exposure will be more correct, then read the Owner’s manual of your camera and follow the instructions about the Custom White Balance setting. That way you will have a correct picture under the color rendering point of view. Kind regards Giovanni Yes,You're right, but the last photo is the closest to its original color. :) Title: Re: Share a collection of tourmaline snuff bottle (No.003) Post by: guest540 on January 07, 2016, 01:52:14 am Dear Eric, Dear Joey,Sure it will let you see it 'live'. ;DYou have it 'live', so I will withhold judgement till I see it 'live' as well. ;D Best, Joey Title: Re: Share a collection of tourmaline snuff bottle (No.003) Post by: Joey Silver / Si Zhouyi 義周司 on January 07, 2016, 06:12:16 am Dear Eric,
Thank you. I plan to next be in Plano in May, G-D Willing. Best, Joey Title: Re: Share a collection of tourmaline snuff bottle (No.003) Post by: guest540 on January 08, 2016, 01:07:54 am Dear Eric, Ok.I'll be waiting for you with Steven.Thank you. I plan to next be in Plano in May, G-D Willing. Best, Joey Title: Re: Share a collection of tourmaline snuff bottle (No.003) Post by: Joey Silver / Si Zhouyi 義周司 on January 08, 2016, 12:10:03 pm Dear Steven & Eric,
I am envious. I wish there was another serious collector in Jerusalem. I have one friend, a retired police officer, but as you can imagine, since he was an honest cop, he's not got the cash to buy great bottles! But I'm glad we have [mainly] honest cops here! ;) Best, Shabbat Shalom, Joey |